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Meddelanden - Larry Danielson

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To: Birgitta Berkemar
 
Thanks very much, Birgitta, for your helpful information about Jonas Eld as a dragoon, and for clearing up my misinterpretations of the place name spellings in the census record I was using.  I'm still getting accustomed to the script used (and very grateful for the census takers in the 1800s and earlier who wrote clearly and carefully!).  If I can help with U.S. sources, please let me know.
 
Larry

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Is Eld a Swedish military name?   Jonas Eld, present at my great-grandfather's baptism in Håll (?), Vena parish, Kalmar, Småland, was born in Måtilla (?) in 1787 according to the 1839-47 census.  My great-grandfather, born 3/22/1831 (173.30--60400 census citation) and named Nils Gustaf, son of Lars Svensson, became a soldier as an adult, Nils Gustaf Krig.

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I am interested in finding more information about two families among my Kalmar län forebearers, in particular:
 
Johannes Bartholdi Duraeus, born 1625 in Kristdala, died 1708/03/04, and Bartholdus Nicolai Duraeus, born 1598 in Kristdala, drowned in Malghults göl in 1633/08/09  (Seems to have been a more colorful family than many of my distant ancestors)
 
Per Silkelock, died 1626 in Bankhult, Kristdala  (Is the surname as poetic sounding in Swedish as in English translation?)
 
Any suggestions for sources beyond Genline would be welcome.  Thanks!

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I've been told my great-grandparents first lived in a torvhydda on their Kansas homestead in 1870.  Is this something like a sod-house/dug-out combination?  Is it related in any way to the backstuga in Sweden, a small cottage which had one or two sides built into a hillside?

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Does anyone know how long it took for a letter from Sweden to arrive in the U.S. in the latter 1800s?  Or know a source that would answer this question for me?

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Archive - Swedish geography / Vena socken life mid-19th century
« skrivet: 2007-12-19, 21:02 »
Thanks again, Bertil!  The photo of Vena church is beautiful and most welcome. More questions to come in 2008.  Happy Holidays!  --Larry

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Archive - Swedish geography / Vena socken life mid-19th century
« skrivet: 2007-12-16, 19:28 »
Thanks very much for the correction for the place name and the spelling of piga!  Was Höckhult a small village?  Thanks again.  --Larry

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Archive - Swedish geography / Vena socken life mid-19th century
« skrivet: 2007-12-15, 21:53 »
My great-grandmother, Lena Sofia Svensdotter, was from Fruvik, near Hultsfred, Vena socken, and she married a soldier, Nils Gustaf Krig, to live in Tuna socken, in the village (?) of Stockhult (?).  I'm interested in any kind of information about daily life, topography, life on a soldier's torp, etc. in this area.  My great-grandmother's father was a brukare and she worked as a pigge before marriage.

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I have gathered some information on kyrkotagning in Swedish church life--the purification of the new mother forty days after giving birth and the unusual rituals associated with it in the distant past.  I'm curious what it involved in the 1860s, however, in Småland.  Thanks and happy new year!

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Archive - Swedish customs / Military name changes
« skrivet: 2007-12-19, 21:17 »
Bo--  The distinction between user and owner is significant, so this is very helpful information.
 
Bertil--  This Moberg website looks great.  I've read the emigrant/immigrant novels and will explore the others. Maybe it's time to get to work and try reading RASKENS in Swedish.  Thanks.--Larry

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Archive - Swedish customs / Military name changes
« skrivet: 2007-12-16, 19:59 »
Thanks, Sten, for substantiating what I found late last night in the church census records on Genline:  Nils Gustaf's birth and baptism information.  His father was Hemmansägaren Lars Svensson, which gives me Nils Gustaf Krig's earlier surname as Larsson, as your source states.  The information about his wife from your source also verifies what I've found in the church records.
 
And thanks, Jeff, for the soldiers research citation.  It will be very useful.
 
Two more questions:  How did a hemmansägare differ from a brukare?  Has Moberg's novel about soldier life, RASKENS, ever been translated into English?  I can't locate it, if so.
 
Thanks again!  --Larry

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Archive - Swedish customs / Military name changes
« skrivet: 2007-12-15, 21:44 »
My great-grandfather was given the last name of Krig when he entered the Swedish military service in the 1840s, eventually living on a soldier's torp in Tuna, close to Vimmerby.  Any suggestions for finding out what his surname was before Krig?  He seemed to have connections with the Hultsfred area, Vena socken, where his wife came from.

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Archive - Swedish customs / Christmas Eve candles in the window
« skrivet: 2007-12-19, 21:09 »
Thanks for clarifying the term själaljus--much appreciated!  More questions to come in 2008, I'm sure.  --Larry

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Archive - Swedish customs / Christmas Eve candles in the window
« skrivet: 2007-12-16, 20:04 »
Thanks, Ann-Mari, for your comment.  Your explanation is sensible, though the crude homestead on the Kansas prairie had no close neighbors and very likely no road close by.  Nevertheless, she may have been hopeful that someone out there would see the candles (and maybe stop in?).  --Larry

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Archive - Swedish customs / Christmas Eve candles in the window
« skrivet: 2007-12-15, 21:40 »
My father recalled that he was told that on his grandmother's first Christmas in the U.S., on the Kansas prairie in 1869, she placed candles in the window in case someone would be passing by.  Somewhere I read the term själlaljus or soul candles being used Christmas Eve in Sweden.  Is there a relationship between själlaljus and the Christmas Eve candle custom my great-grandmother followed in her new home on the prairie?  She was born in Fruvik, near Hultsfred in Vena socken

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Archive - General questions / """"Bouppteckning"""" question
« skrivet: 2008-06-25, 17:19 »
Are on-line sources available to locate bouppteckning information for my great-great grandparents who remained in Kalmar län after a son and daughter emigrated to the U.S. in 1869?  I have names, death dates, and location information for starters.  Thanks!

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So far I've been unsuccessful using the EmiHamn data base in Ancestry.com to locate the ship name and arrival port for Nils Gustaf Krig (born 1831), wife Lena Sofia, and sons, Sven Edvard and Johan Viktor, emigrating from Tuna, Kalmar län, Småland, in 1869, departure port Göteborg, destination Galva/Chicago.  The EmiHamn information provided me spells the last name as Kric and the Amibas spells it as Vrig.  I have yet to learn what the ship's name was and what its port of entry was, an important puzzle piece in my research.  The EmiHamn archive number is 2:241:1844, and the Emibas migration file ID is Tuna H 1869 #049, #050, #051, and #052. I'm especially interested in the passenger list so I can verify that Johan Viktor arrived in the U.S. with his family.   Any help in locating this information would be much appreciated.

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I'm having difficulty locating emigrant/passenger information for my great-grandparents and their children from Tuna socken, Kalmar: Nils Gustaf Krig, born 1831 (spelled Kric on the one list I've located) and his wife Lena Sofia Svensdotter, born 1836, with their two children, Sven Edvard, born 1861, and Johan Viktor, born 1866.  The one source I located indicated the port of departure was Göteborg and the date August 27, 1869.  What I'm very curious about is Johan Viktor, who disappears from the records after emigration.  Three males in the family and one woman in the household, according to the Swedish census, emigrated, but there's no record of Johan Viktor in the U.S. census.  I'm wondering if he died during the passage or was lost or died on the land trip to Kansas.  Do I have to purchase the EmiHamn data CD, even though EmiHamn is one of the data bases in Ancestry.com, which I'm using?  Thanks!

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I can't locate the Genline census information concerning death dates, etc., in Vena socken, Kalmar län from 1870 on.  I have birth dates and family information for great-great grandparents, but no death dates.  (I'm curious how long they lived after their children's emigration to the U.S. in 1869.)
   
The parents of great-grandfather Nils Gustaf (Svensson) Krig were:  
Sven Peter Larrson, born 1797 in Häll, Vena socken, Kalmar, and Brita Kajsa Svensdotter, born 10/18, 1799.
   
The parents of great-grandmother Helena (Lena) Sofia Svensdotter were: Sven Johansson, born 04/23, 1804 in Vena socken, and Cajsa Johansdotter, born 06/02, 1808 in  Höckhult (?), Kristdala.
 
Is some census information unavailable for certain periods and places or am I looking in the wrong place?

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