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Ointroducerad adel (och annan utländsk adel) / SV: Alberto di Filingher nob di Württemberg e signore di Folingh nella Svevia
« skrivet: 2024-04-25, 08:31 »
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Ointroducerad adel (och annan utländsk adel) / Alberto di Filingher nob di Württemberg e signore di Folingh nella Svevia
« skrivet: 2024-04-25, 08:27 »
Förlåt, min Svenska är så dåligt, men jag läser gärnä på Svenskan. The question is of the ancestry of de Antoninis, Antonius, Anthonius family, whose first ancestor with this name was of nobility of Württemberg since latest 1280, and he emerges in Amaro, Frily. Lombardy in 1308, family movong for Cracow, Poland in 1400, lived in Kassa, Kingdom of Hungary, then back to Poland and when Riga and the Polish Livonia in 1620 became Swerdish Livonia and from there into Ingermanland and from there for Stockholm in 1702 and the ancestry for the Finnish Antoninis in different branches between 1700-1711. The family is good known after 10 years of research and archives donations from Friuli, of the Greifswald university research and archivesin Riksarkivet, Krigsarkivet, Amsterdam Archief and via several academic studies from Italy until Finland. This name in the title is based on copied medieval and later writings and Antonius family traditional knowledge in Italy and there well documented. We have been fighting with this name, Filingher means Villingen, on the North Alps at that time the region of Villingen-Schwenningen, Folingh could mean Völling in Bavaria -then part of V.-S., but the most reasent understanding this means Folingen/Fölingen in Skänningen, Sweden. The German tradesmen were already in early 1200ies and in Biskopsberg, Folingen lives an estate family called Follinger (with variants). The family is never seen as origin of Italy, only three generations there, or German (only in Italy as needed for ennonblement in the Republic of Venice) and the Y DNA is Finnic and known after 1050 after a H -Group mutation and located in the area of Neva River Delta, in Karelien Isthmus and bit to north of it. A month ago I was informed that the Fröjel-461 Viking Grave research locates anncestry in Föjel, Gotland and suggests an ancestral connection with many Ancient DNA connections in Sweden, Estonia, Russia etc. The historical research disagrees of any Finnish national origins before 1700. In 1308 and after the family has been iron tools etc. tradesmen and mercenaries all over mainland Europe until 20th century. Has one branch after the year 1200 somehow left back from Follingen for Schwaben and then from there Friuli? Or, as the Y DNA suggests now, is Swedish, rare Viking ancestry (18 samples of N Y-DNA in Ancient DNA of 550) from Sweden? I now only that Germans sent merchant familie for Skänningen but there was also a local Folingen family as revealed in 1301 already? I am enclined to see as local Swedish origin, of noble Folingen in Biskopsberg Folingen. Sorry the long text. Any ideas? Any Follingen known today? Yours MA Erkki Lehto, wife de Antoninis of this lineage via Cracow for Finland in 1711.
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Höppener / Höppner / SV: Höppener
« skrivet: 2024-02-20, 10:36 »
Höppener, Höpner, Hoppener, Höpsfner is found in Stettin in 1600. Anna H. got then with merchant Peter Anthoni son also Peter Anthoni, later known as Peter Anthoni Lofeldt. The Borgå Höpner is distantly realated, sharing a fragment of DNA with the Finnish Antonies (Autosomal DNA), moving from Ingermanland to Finland. This small fragment does not give any final knowledge of the form of the family connection, related is right anyway.
Franciscus Antonius was the ancestor in Nyen, where the family lived latest in 1664. Though of Finnish Y DNA, this family has lived before in Pommern (uncertain) , Bavaria (certainly) and 1308-1400 (certainly) in Friuli, Amaro, Italy and then one branch in 1400 returned north, to Cracow and then via Livland to Ingermanland, Sweden and Finland.
Do you have any knowledge on possible Höpfner-Höppener connection with Pommern areas with or without Borgå?
The University of Greifswald has just reasently researched the Lofeldt history. Adelswapen has less information and has some mistakes, not yet corrected there. Peter Lofeltldt and the swordsmaster Franciscus lived for longer times in Ingermanland, both.
Franciscus Antonius was the ancestor in Nyen, where the family lived latest in 1664. Though of Finnish Y DNA, this family has lived before in Pommern (uncertain) , Bavaria (certainly) and 1308-1400 (certainly) in Friuli, Amaro, Italy and then one branch in 1400 returned north, to Cracow and then via Livland to Ingermanland, Sweden and Finland.
Do you have any knowledge on possible Höpfner-Höppener connection with Pommern areas with or without Borgå?
The University of Greifswald has just reasently researched the Lofeldt history. Adelswapen has less information and has some mistakes, not yet corrected there. Peter Lofeltldt and the swordsmaster Franciscus lived for longer times in Ingermanland, both.
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Pantzar / SV: Pantzar
« skrivet: 2023-10-02, 15:04 »
Hej, en Hendrik Pantzar förekommer i Kitee i Finland redan 1711 , och familjen lever i Finland i dag, om jag har det rätt. Fältväbel och guerilla (1711-1720) från Den Stora Nordiska kriget (1700-1721) Abraham Anthon hade en dotter Lovisa, och man för henne var av detta samma Pantzar släkt från Kitee och hette också Hendrik år 1798. Nu är det så att Anthoni familjen härstammar från Trentino. Och jag har hittat också Pancher i Riksarkivet documneter, en variant fötr Pantzar och Pancheri förekommer i den samma trakten som vårt de Antoninis i norra Italien. Anthoni-Antoninis kom senast från Ingermanland, och släkten är urpringligt from Balticum någonstans, men har via Polen och Hungarien landat i norra Italien. Sälkten har mercenary grenar utanför Italien, och Anders, Abrahams bror ha varit också i Armen av Prinsen av Oranje, i Holland före han kom i 1712 tilbaka til Livland och därefter med broderna Barthold, Jakob oc Abraham 1711-1720 i Svensk guerilla, fotdragoner i Finland. Italienska krigare har man hittats redan i de trupperna som med de la Gardie attackerade Novgorod och i annat håll. Jag har alltid före tänkt att Panzar är av tysk ursprung - är det?
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Förnamn - G / SV: Gisle / Gissle / Gissel / Gisel
« skrivet: 2022-07-30, 09:24 »
Gisle, Gislekors, Gisselkors namn kan hittas i Kajana i Finland och ny söker jag släkten från Ingermanland efter 1600. En kapten i Kajana mellan 1659-1666 är Nils Hermansson Gisle. Jag har en aning at släkten är från Sverige. Gisselkors är den mest använda namnet.
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Håslöv (Hårslöv) / SV: Christopher Lundgren
« skrivet: 2022-02-25, 15:19 »Hi Erkki!
This information is very interesting, and Fabricia actually sounds Italian, now that you mention itMy research regarding the Fabricius / Fabricia family name here in Skåne, in southern Sweden, shows that the name usually derives from craftsmen (fabricus in latin) during the 17th century, whose sons became priests and together adopted the name Fabricius to honor their father’s profession.
I suspect that there was a similar tradition further north in Sweden, but in some cases the families bearing the name Fabricius / Fabricia in Sweden during the 16th and 17th century may have Italian origins – hopefully some other Swedish genealogist has knowledge about this?
If you still would be interested, I am at the moment working with the Swedish military in the Baltic and have found two more Fabrici in the regiment. And, Fabrici is an Italian family name in Padua and Tuscany, in proper dates. In my research I have today found even more Italians in the Swedish Baltic regiments since about 1630ies.
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Håslöv (Hårslöv) / SV: Christopher Lundgren
« skrivet: 2022-01-31, 16:40 »
Tack Markus!
Fabrici name is known in Padova during the proper dates. It has been really difficult to find any information about the Italians in Sweden though and they surely were in more relevant numbers since 1584 in the troops of Pontus de la Gardie, in Ingermanland and in attack against Novgorod. My wife´s ancestors lived in Nyen latest since 1665, before that in the western Livland, Pommern but also in the Polish areas as Gdansk and the Duchy of Courland. But, though the Dutch-Italian ancestry is known, the branch in the Swedish service were mercenaries. And I really do not exactly know when our branch of the family arrived. One branch that descended of shipowners in Amsterdam and Padova arrived in mid 150ies into Riga. The most Italians in the Swedish Realm, if I am right, during the Age of Greatness were artists and craftsmen, some in service for de la Gardie family in Stockholm and in their mansions in Livland and elsewhere in mainland Sweden. On Strozzi, Fabrici and Antonini I have found several Goyer/Goijer family during the 18th century Sweden, interesting for me as de Goyer (Gooijers) shares Autosomal DNA with all Antonini descendants in Finland. de Goijer, Goyer, Gooijers is found in Amsterdam and Breda, as Antoninis, one lady wed to Signore Bernardo Antonini during 1680ies. The Antoninis in Nyen were found following the Dutch settlers, merchants and craftsmen and business peoples, and soldiers. I have not found any research on Italian immigration at all. It may be, as with Antonini-Anthonini-Anthonius-Antonies they could be mixed with Dutch nationals, as the United Provinces got immigration from all Italy, also via the French ruled areas, not to mention the Polish-Italians as mercenaries changing for the Swedish due to the Swedish recruitment policies of the Carolin kings. 10 % of all the mercenaries during the 30 Years´of War were of Italian origin, not to mention the thousands recruited in the Flanders armies of with some later changing for the Princes of Orange/United Provinces as several Antoninis in three generations. Thank you for your kind comment. Erkki
Fabrici name is known in Padova during the proper dates. It has been really difficult to find any information about the Italians in Sweden though and they surely were in more relevant numbers since 1584 in the troops of Pontus de la Gardie, in Ingermanland and in attack against Novgorod. My wife´s ancestors lived in Nyen latest since 1665, before that in the western Livland, Pommern but also in the Polish areas as Gdansk and the Duchy of Courland. But, though the Dutch-Italian ancestry is known, the branch in the Swedish service were mercenaries. And I really do not exactly know when our branch of the family arrived. One branch that descended of shipowners in Amsterdam and Padova arrived in mid 150ies into Riga. The most Italians in the Swedish Realm, if I am right, during the Age of Greatness were artists and craftsmen, some in service for de la Gardie family in Stockholm and in their mansions in Livland and elsewhere in mainland Sweden. On Strozzi, Fabrici and Antonini I have found several Goyer/Goijer family during the 18th century Sweden, interesting for me as de Goyer (Gooijers) shares Autosomal DNA with all Antonini descendants in Finland. de Goijer, Goyer, Gooijers is found in Amsterdam and Breda, as Antoninis, one lady wed to Signore Bernardo Antonini during 1680ies. The Antoninis in Nyen were found following the Dutch settlers, merchants and craftsmen and business peoples, and soldiers. I have not found any research on Italian immigration at all. It may be, as with Antonini-Anthonini-Anthonius-Antonies they could be mixed with Dutch nationals, as the United Provinces got immigration from all Italy, also via the French ruled areas, not to mention the Polish-Italians as mercenaries changing for the Swedish due to the Swedish recruitment policies of the Carolin kings. 10 % of all the mercenaries during the 30 Years´of War were of Italian origin, not to mention the thousands recruited in the Flanders armies of with some later changing for the Princes of Orange/United Provinces as several Antoninis in three generations. Thank you for your kind comment. Erkki
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Håslöv (Hårslöv) / SV: Christopher Lundgren
« skrivet: 2021-12-30, 16:32 »
Hei, I have searched for Italians in Sweden during the late 16th and early 17th century. The name Fabris, Fabricia is interesting. Count Hieronümo Strozzi, in Sweden writes in 1613 about the death of Geronimo Frazius (Ämnessamlingar, Riksarkivet). That Frazius is likely Fabris/Fabrici, the brother/cousin for the Italian sword master Salvatore Fabris who was in 1594 in Uppsala and in a legend connected with about 40 Italian swordsmen with a murder plan on Duke Charles, later King of Sweden. The murder was ordered by Sigismund III Vasa, but betrayed by Strozzi.
The letter in 1613 witnesses that Count Strozzi stayed back in Sweden where he also died later in 1619. I have understood that Strozzi was relative to Paul Klevenhüll, (1593-1655) who settled Sweden in Julita Gård. The Vienna living Strozzi had a Klevenhüll wife. This interesting as my wife descends from a Italian-Dutch swordsman Francesco de Antonini, one son of Giovanni di Antonini di Ceresetto o d´Olanda, first fighting in Breda with his father Adriano and brothers for the United Provinces and Princes of Orange, later found near Gdansk amongst Dutch. Francesco arrived Livland Swedish service likely during 1640ies and ended surely Stockholm in 1701-1702. His sons became guerilla and officers during the Great Northern War and ended as officers etc. in eastern Finland located homesteads for the Swedish army. It is about possible that Adriano di Antonini would have been involved (or other Antoninis) with the event in Uppsala. This explains my interest on Fabris. Salvatore Fabris died in Padua as a leader of a fencing school there (Rapier sword specialist). Geronimo stayed in Sweden, known by Strozzi, if I am right. All Antonini mercenaries were trained until Giovanni Antonini in this school, Adrianos sons were in Padua also during the dates of the death of Salvatore. So, is it possible that Fabricia has an Italian family origin from 16th century?
The letter in 1613 witnesses that Count Strozzi stayed back in Sweden where he also died later in 1619. I have understood that Strozzi was relative to Paul Klevenhüll, (1593-1655) who settled Sweden in Julita Gård. The Vienna living Strozzi had a Klevenhüll wife. This interesting as my wife descends from a Italian-Dutch swordsman Francesco de Antonini, one son of Giovanni di Antonini di Ceresetto o d´Olanda, first fighting in Breda with his father Adriano and brothers for the United Provinces and Princes of Orange, later found near Gdansk amongst Dutch. Francesco arrived Livland Swedish service likely during 1640ies and ended surely Stockholm in 1701-1702. His sons became guerilla and officers during the Great Northern War and ended as officers etc. in eastern Finland located homesteads for the Swedish army. It is about possible that Adriano di Antonini would have been involved (or other Antoninis) with the event in Uppsala. This explains my interest on Fabris. Salvatore Fabris died in Padua as a leader of a fencing school there (Rapier sword specialist). Geronimo stayed in Sweden, known by Strozzi, if I am right. All Antonini mercenaries were trained until Giovanni Antonini in this school, Adrianos sons were in Padua also during the dates of the death of Salvatore. So, is it possible that Fabricia has an Italian family origin from 16th century?
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Släkter A - Ø / SV: Anton / Anthon
« skrivet: 2021-07-12, 10:25 »
Hi,
Anthon, Anton, Anthonius, Antoni, Antoniny and Antonini are in my wife´s family ancestry, coming from Ingermanland, Nyen Skanss, then in 1701-1702 Francisco A. escaped as wounded to Sweden, a sword master, "swfäärdmästare" in Nyen after 1642 until 1701. In Stockholm after being widowed from his first when Nötheborg Castle was taken by the Russians, remarried there with Britha Catharina Grusson , who lost her first husband on the same day as F. his wife. B:s husband was the artillery smith of Nyen Skanss before sent to Nötheborg where he died. F. was of a merchant/mercenary family that dates back round early 14th century in Friuli and /or Trento, the latter following the family lineage via Amsterdam, Gdansk, Konigsberg, Riga to Ingermanland, path from Amsterdam under research now. The family is truly known in Finland as being in direct lineage before Professor Eric Anthoni(us, d.in 1978, specialist in Swedish and Finnish medieval history) and the ancestry well researched in Finland after the sons of. Francisco: Anders, Abraham, Jakob that were guerrillas in the Great Northern War until 1720 and Captain Johan Anthonius recruited in Riga in 1700 by the Swedish. There is more Anthoni family in Pommern and in Ingermanland, and there should in Denmark as well. I have found only one other Anthoni as a refugee in Härnösand, a retired captain. Your discussion is really interesting. It may be that all the mercenary Anthonis from the Swedish Colonies, especially from Pommern could be of this same family origin. If you are interested, I have just written a book with 80 pages of Anthonis, also some articles all in English.
Anthon, Anton, Anthonius, Antoni, Antoniny and Antonini are in my wife´s family ancestry, coming from Ingermanland, Nyen Skanss, then in 1701-1702 Francisco A. escaped as wounded to Sweden, a sword master, "swfäärdmästare" in Nyen after 1642 until 1701. In Stockholm after being widowed from his first when Nötheborg Castle was taken by the Russians, remarried there with Britha Catharina Grusson , who lost her first husband on the same day as F. his wife. B:s husband was the artillery smith of Nyen Skanss before sent to Nötheborg where he died. F. was of a merchant/mercenary family that dates back round early 14th century in Friuli and /or Trento, the latter following the family lineage via Amsterdam, Gdansk, Konigsberg, Riga to Ingermanland, path from Amsterdam under research now. The family is truly known in Finland as being in direct lineage before Professor Eric Anthoni(us, d.in 1978, specialist in Swedish and Finnish medieval history) and the ancestry well researched in Finland after the sons of. Francisco: Anders, Abraham, Jakob that were guerrillas in the Great Northern War until 1720 and Captain Johan Anthonius recruited in Riga in 1700 by the Swedish. There is more Anthoni family in Pommern and in Ingermanland, and there should in Denmark as well. I have found only one other Anthoni as a refugee in Härnösand, a retired captain. Your discussion is really interesting. It may be that all the mercenary Anthonis from the Swedish Colonies, especially from Pommern could be of this same family origin. If you are interested, I have just written a book with 80 pages of Anthonis, also some articles all in English.
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Ointroducerad adel (och annan utländsk adel) / Antonini, de Franciscus
« skrivet: 2021-07-11, 08:38 »
Sfwäärdmästare i Nyen after 1642 ends till 1701, gift med Britha Catharina Grusson i Stockholm, 2. giftermål för både, F.A. Venetian Friulian Nobility, också I Trento. Släkten lever in Finland och använder n. Anthonius, Anthoni efter sonerna från 1. gifte, Abraham, Anders, Johan och Barthold, professor och genealog Eric Anthoni (d.1978) efter Anders A.
Ny research from Italy, Holland and Ingermanland, published in May 2021, an updated family tree soon available. F.A. found in Riksarkivet documents 1701-1702, family in Amsterdam in Archief Amsterdam, and in a new Italian research. Family researched in Finland from 1713 on. Family originally from Northern Germany, since late 13th century in Friuli, later in Trento and many areas in the Balkans and Belgium-Holland.
Will attach documents later.
Ny research from Italy, Holland and Ingermanland, published in May 2021, an updated family tree soon available. F.A. found in Riksarkivet documents 1701-1702, family in Amsterdam in Archief Amsterdam, and in a new Italian research. Family researched in Finland from 1713 on. Family originally from Northern Germany, since late 13th century in Friuli, later in Trento and many areas in the Balkans and Belgium-Holland.
Will attach documents later.
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Holland / SV: Familjen Land / Den Helder
« skrivet: 2021-07-05, 07:30 »
Hei. Archief Amsterdam is easy to use in the Internet. I would begin to search with the family name. The other is the Netherlands archives, you find it with Google.
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Pinello / SV: Pinello. Gammalt Släktregister - 1914 Hjalmar Pehrsson
« skrivet: 2021-07-04, 18:14 »
Hi Sivert. Jag hittade Pinello i Tor Carpelan: Ättertavlor de på Finland's Riddarhus Inskrivna Ätterna (del 3), sidorna 818-820, på Svenska. Mitt fel att jag skrev det på engelskan some jag använder för det mest.
The family is interesting as the religion was a delicate matter for the de Antoniny also during the late 17th century when the ancestor Franciscus de A. of the Finnish Anthonius, Anthoni family changed for the Lutheran faith. Franciscus became the ancestor for professor Eric Anthoni (d.1978) whose writings of the medieval and 16th century Nobility are still sold today in Riddarhuset in Stockholm for instance. I am at the moment trying to find out the path after Trento-Friuli areas via Amsterdam, Gdansk and Königsberg into Ingermanland -if I am at all right with this path. The Antoniny may have entered Sweden before (with the condottiere of family De La Gardie) even is possible that F. Is a descendant of those swordmen that arrived in 1594 aiming to murder Getting Carl with count Strozzi staying back in Sweden. F. was a Sfäärd mästare in Nyen, Ingermanland.
The family is interesting as the religion was a delicate matter for the de Antoniny also during the late 17th century when the ancestor Franciscus de A. of the Finnish Anthonius, Anthoni family changed for the Lutheran faith. Franciscus became the ancestor for professor Eric Anthoni (d.1978) whose writings of the medieval and 16th century Nobility are still sold today in Riddarhuset in Stockholm for instance. I am at the moment trying to find out the path after Trento-Friuli areas via Amsterdam, Gdansk and Königsberg into Ingermanland -if I am at all right with this path. The Antoniny may have entered Sweden before (with the condottiere of family De La Gardie) even is possible that F. Is a descendant of those swordmen that arrived in 1594 aiming to murder Getting Carl with count Strozzi staying back in Sweden. F. was a Sfäärd mästare in Nyen, Ingermanland.
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Italien / Antoniny, Antonini,Antonius, Antonij, Anthonius
« skrivet: 2021-07-02, 05:08 »
Francesco de Antoniny came into Nyenskanss, Ingermanland between 1644-1665, not directly from Italy but is recorded of family from Italy in Stockholm at least in 1701-1702 by Riksarkivet documents. His sons became guerillas of the Great Northern War. With the spelling Antoniny is found one family in Amsterdam, as in business with Königsberg and Gdansk i.e. Prussian areas during the 17th century. This family is from Trento and/or Friuli on side of the Republic of Venice. Had also business in Padova and their ships sailed into Africa as well. The family is found in the Archief Amsterdam, but Francesco may have born in Gdansk or Königsberg. Antonius and Antonini are found later in Riga. There one of the sons entered the Swedish regiments, the other three from Ingermanland, two surely from the Nyen City. Francesco remarried in1702 with Catharines Grusson in Stockholm. From there in Sweden I have not found a trace after 1702. F. changed to Lutheran faith in Ingermanland. Does anybody have any information with this family name in the Baltic areas and Sweden. Finland is researched and known.
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Pinello / SV: Pinello. Gammalt Släktregister - 1914 Hjalmar Pehrsson
« skrivet: 2021-07-02, 04:48 »
Hi, Pinello is found in the House of Nobility in Finland registers, Giovanni Battista Pinello, easiest in Carpelan writing of the people in written in the house of Nobility. Family no 135, pages 818-819. Perhaps you have this already? His family lost property in Genova due to religion change.
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Baltikum / Släkten Anthoni/i/us/j i Ingermanland och Eric Anthoni i Finland
« skrivet: 2019-10-23, 11:18 »
Vi har för fem år forskat familjen Anthoni I Finland (också genealogist Eric Anthoni i denna familj). Ty Eric Anthoni har vetat at släkten sin går mycket längre bakåt i tiden än 1700 talet, har hela familjen varit tyst om den dragiska historian nyligen hittat (2019). Eric A. har bara utrykct att 1. alla Anthonis i Finland är av samma stam., 2. att han är släkt (och Anthonis i dag) med Vasa ätten och King Gustav Vasa och att familjen Anthonij 3. är från Italian, och däri kännt i medeltiden. Ny är det säkert alla tre är rätt.
Men Eirc Anthoni, och forskarna Atle Wilskman, Irma Kiilas och Carl von Bonnsdorf har inte commenterad om historien om Den Stora Ofreden ock Krigen 1700-1721 där Barthold Anthoni, Jakob Anthoni, Abraham Anthoni, Johannes Anthoni och Anders Anthoni, med undantag av Johannes Anthoni var sissar in Finska frikomopaniet ända till 1720 och därifrån alla släktgrenar går till Nyen i Ingermanland, och till Anthonij Moisio (gård) in Venjoki etc. Kanske de har något at göra med det att Anthonis (flera) var de som försökte döda tsar Peter! Ny Riksarkivets forskare har hittat två grenar (?) av Anthonis som är adlade, en Peter Anthonii adlat Lofelt (315) är just närä Nyen, och inte långt bort från Anthonij Moisio är särkild intressant. Men, i 1702 när Tsar Peter och "Moskoviterna" stormade intill Ingermanland oc Nyen, en "sfäärdmestare" Francois de Antonini flytte till Stocholm via Finland! Documenten är i Riksarkiv. Det är intressant såsom vi vet ny att Anthonis i Finland har rötterna till Vasa ätten och till Lombardia under medeltiden med Signori familjerna men släktgrenen är via fruarna av Anthonis i Finland! Finns det också via Anthoni? Vadmenade Eric A., fruarna eller man Anthinis? Så allt som har göra med Livland eller Ingermanland med Anthonis kunde hjälpa med min dilemma. Kristina Anthoni forskar Anthoni fruarnas släkter i historien är ny i 600 talet runtom Europa från Scotland till Grekland osv. Förlåt min dålig Svenska, jag skriver för det mesta på engelskan. Men läser ju bra Svenska mm.
Men Eirc Anthoni, och forskarna Atle Wilskman, Irma Kiilas och Carl von Bonnsdorf har inte commenterad om historien om Den Stora Ofreden ock Krigen 1700-1721 där Barthold Anthoni, Jakob Anthoni, Abraham Anthoni, Johannes Anthoni och Anders Anthoni, med undantag av Johannes Anthoni var sissar in Finska frikomopaniet ända till 1720 och därifrån alla släktgrenar går till Nyen i Ingermanland, och till Anthonij Moisio (gård) in Venjoki etc. Kanske de har något at göra med det att Anthonis (flera) var de som försökte döda tsar Peter! Ny Riksarkivets forskare har hittat två grenar (?) av Anthonis som är adlade, en Peter Anthonii adlat Lofelt (315) är just närä Nyen, och inte långt bort från Anthonij Moisio är särkild intressant. Men, i 1702 när Tsar Peter och "Moskoviterna" stormade intill Ingermanland oc Nyen, en "sfäärdmestare" Francois de Antonini flytte till Stocholm via Finland! Documenten är i Riksarkiv. Det är intressant såsom vi vet ny att Anthonis i Finland har rötterna till Vasa ätten och till Lombardia under medeltiden med Signori familjerna men släktgrenen är via fruarna av Anthonis i Finland! Finns det också via Anthoni? Vadmenade Eric A., fruarna eller man Anthinis? Så allt som har göra med Livland eller Ingermanland med Anthonis kunde hjälpa med min dilemma. Kristina Anthoni forskar Anthoni fruarnas släkter i historien är ny i 600 talet runtom Europa från Scotland till Grekland osv. Förlåt min dålig Svenska, jag skriver för det mesta på engelskan. Men läser ju bra Svenska mm.
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