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Författare Ämne: Suggestions for where to look for Boel/Botilde/Hilda  (läst 587 gånger)

2023-07-03, 10:30
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Utloggad Anna Sofie Andersen

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In 1866 Ola Larson Fagerberg from Stora Uppåkra (b 20 aug 1837) marries a girl from Sweden in Kastrup, Tårnby Sogn, København. I have massive trouble finding out about the girl, and hope some kind person may help me with where to look, since none of the information I have can be considered reliable. Here is what I know of the woman:

Marriage Jun 20 1866 - Pige Boel Johansdotter in Kastrup 32 years
Child 1 - Gustav Adolf Fagerberg (15 feb 1867) - mother named Botilde Jacobsen
Child 2 - Carl Wilhelm Fagerberg (21 march 1869) - mother named Bothilde Johansen in Kastrup 29 years
Household record Feb 1 1870 - Hilda f(ødt) Johansen 28 years - born in Sweden. The rest of the family fits
Child 3 - William Oscar Martin Fagerberg (9 Oct 1870) - mother named Botilde Johansen 31 years Kastrup
Death June 24th 1892 - Hilda Fagerberg born Johansen. Widow after Ola Larson Fagerberg. Born in Sweden 1846. 46 years

It is the same person, but her name (Boel, Botilde, Hilda) and age (b from 1834 to 1846) differs greatly across the sources, and I have no idea from where in Sweden she came.
Could anyone suggest to me where to start in the Swedish online archives? Are there any emmigration lists for Denmark? What seems the more common girls name among the three?

Any help is appreciated.

Sincerely
Anna Sofie

2023-07-04, 18:23
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Utloggad Carl Wolf

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There are two sets of marriage books for Tårnby Sogn, one for 1855-1892 which as you found only states that Boel Johansdotter was 32 years old.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=433005#433005,79006593
There is another book for 1863 to 1884 which gives more information about her.  It is difficult for me to read but maybe states that she was born 4 Mars? 1834 Hyllie? Malmö? and she came to Denmark in 1864.
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=206360#206360,39175470
I do not see a good candidate in the Hyllie Födelse- och dopböcker.  A girl named Boel was born 4 Nov 1834 but her father was named Christen Hansson so probably she is not the correct person.
Hyllie/Limhamns kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker. Huvudserie, SE/MSA/01159/C I/3 (1814-1861)
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0065973_00112#?c=&m=&s=&cv=111&xywh=303%2C483%2C5815%2C3666


2023-07-04, 21:22
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Oh my bloody G**. Thank you. How could I have overlooked that. Hopefully it can bring me closer to finding her. Would there exist any records of people moving from Sweden to Denmark in that period?

2023-07-04, 21:38
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If I look for Boel Johansdotter in the house hold records, it offers the birthdate 4th of November 1834 in Hyllie Malmö. As mentioned her father is named Christen Hansson, but it seems odd that the house hold records name her Johansdotter. However it would fit with this girl changing name and birth year constantly throughout the various records. Why not last name as well. She is not making it easy.

Again thanks

2023-07-05, 08:44
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I think I figured it out  :)

There was a Boel Christensdotter born November 4th 1834 Hyllie. When she comes to Gessie there is a Boel Johansdotter on the next row. This Boel Johansdotter is born June 30th 1838 Vellinge, Gässie (M) AI:3 (1849-1861) Bild 780 / sid 73 (AID: v109596a.b780.s73, NAD: SE/LLA/13132).
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0065528_00082

Födelseboken:
Vellinge (M) CI:2 (1801-1846) Bild 1220 / sid 117 (AID: v113025a.b1220.s117, NAD: SE/LLA/13448)
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0070197_00126

When Boel Johansdotter moves back to Vellinge (to her parents at fattighuset) in 1858 she gets the birth date and birth place from Boel Christensdotter, Vellinge (M) AI:10 (1858-1861) Bild 149 / sid 144 (AID: v113009.b149.s144, NAD: SE/LLA/13448). The priest made a mistake.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0070183_00155

The incorrect birth information then follows Boel Johansdotter from that point.

Boel Christensdotter marries in Malmö and never moves to Denmark. But Boel Johansdotter disappears from Malmö about the time your Boel Johansdotter comes to Denmark.

Another note, Boel Johansdotter had a son Otto born October 23 1863 in Malmö who died in 1864 at her parents home. Boel moves to Jordberga 1864 but I cannot find her there, Malmö Caroli (M) AI:30 (1860-1864) Bild 282 / sid 269 (AID: v103076.b282.s269, NAD: SE/MSA/00553).
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067474_00277

2023-07-05, 10:31
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Thank you for this. It might also explain the divergence in age later in life. There is a note at Malmö Caroli (M) AI:30 (1860-1864) Bild 282 / sid 269 (AID: v103076.b282.s269, NAD: SE/MSA/00553).
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067474_00277. Is there any chance of knowing what it might say? It makes a date 25/8 1863, but the rest is very blurry.

2023-07-05, 12:15
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An attempt...

Fick d. 25/?? 1863 bev. för att resa ??
till föräldrarna Hvellinge och
där framföda dess barn ??
hon är hafvande

So she got flyttbevis to go home to her parents in Vellinge to give birth.

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