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2024-01-30, 10:12
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Hello! - I wonder if anyone can help me.

 I am trying to find information on my 2nd great grandfather's parents. The father's name was Gustaf or possibly August Haglund and their mother's name was Christine (Christina..?)... (Holm maybe)... I don't think I've ever found a document with a surname listed on her.

 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/91900:2561?tid=189189992&pid=282456563742&queryId=7936763e-6fd2-4e4a-91a9-caefdc0483e9&_phsrc=

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6K7B-6DKL
 
I can't find anything about them, apart from just their names on a couple of their children's records and a census or two, I can't find a census attached to them though and nothing that tells me anything other than that they were born in Sweden.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6K7B-6DKL

 I don't know where in Sweden they come from.

 My 2nd great grandfather's name was Carl John Haglund he was born in 1887 in Plato, Minnesota - and has an older brother named Oscar George Haglund born in 1884 also in Plato. - Both were baptized in Lester Prairie, Minnesota at Bethel Lutheran Church. Carl & Oscar could have a sister named Selma Haglund (?)

 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8W9-SZH

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314181-00412?pId=4654677

 Iowa, US, Marriage Records, 1880-1947 for Oscar, parents are listed as unknown.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8823/images/42563_fp030872_0162-00204?pId=3821920

 I found an Oscar Haglund in the 1900 Iowa US Census living with another family listed as help & in 1910 as housekeeper/farm laborer.

  https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2019365:7602?tid=189189992&pid=282456563744&queryId=05ddd789-5a11-4c64-b648-29832fe7b49e&_p

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7884/images/31111_4328291-01352?pId=7198164

 Any help would be greatly appreciated

2024-01-31, 01:05
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Here's a possible match for the family from the 1885 Minnesota state census.  They're in the right county (McLeod) but the son George's age (9 years old) doesn't match.  Could the census taker have recorded the wrong age?  Or could the "9" really be a "0"?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQF6-XFV

Name   G P Haglund
Sex   Male
Age   35 years
Birth Date   1850
Birth Year (Estimated)   1850
Birthplace   Sweden
Race   White
Event Date   1885
Event Place   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Event Place (Original)   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Page Number   5
Volume   McLeod

Name   Christena Haglund
Sex   Female
Age   31 years
Birth Date   1854
Birth Year (Estimated)   1854
Birthplace   Sweden
Race   White
Event Date   1885
Event Place   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Event Place (Original)   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Page Number   5
Volume   McLeod

Name   George Haglund
Sex   Male
Age   9 years
Birth Date   1876
Birth Year (Estimated)   1876
Birthplace   Minnesota
Race   White
Event Date   1885
Event Place   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Event Place (Original)   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Page Number   5
Volume   McLeod

Name   Britta Johnson
Sex   Female
Age   75 years
Birth Date   1810
Birth Year (Estimated)   1810
Birthplace   Sweden
Race   White
Event Date   1885
Event Place   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Event Place (Original)   Helen, McLeod, Minnesota
Page Number   5
Volume   McLeod




2024-02-01, 00:25
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Tack,
det skulle vara logiskt att 9:an skulle vara en ∅ om han föddes 1884 och Carl inte skulle ha fötts ännu. 

Det lämnar fortfarande frågan om var i Sverige de kom ifrån. 
Var Britta Christinas mamma? 

på thrulines på Ancestry står det att en möjlig match för Gustafs far kan vara Erik Olofsson Haglund född 28 juli 1802 i Vastra Vingåker, Vingåker, Södermanland, Suède.  Eriks mamma är listad som Brita

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/5901619031:62476

skulle detta vara rätt härstamning?


2024-02-05, 03:04
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Hello Bethany, Gustaf Haglund born 20 Dec 1847 in Västra Vingåker and your ancestor Gustaf Haglund were NOT the same man.  The other Gustaf lived nearly all of his life in Västra Vingåker until 1923, when he moved to Lilla Malma where he died in 1925.  He never emigrated to the US, although a few of his children did.  So the other trees at Ancestry which list him as the father of your ancestor Carl John Haglund are wrong.  Sources are listed below.


You also asked if Britta Johnson in the 1885 Minnesota state census record was the mother of your ancestor Gustaf Haglund's wife Christina.  This is possible, however Brita instead might have been Gustaf's mother.  This is difficult to prove and it's also difficult to determine from where in Sweden they came, because the surname "Johnson" is very common, but here are some census records which support this theory.
1880 US Census, Carver County, Minnesota (where Gustaf and Christina were married in 1883)

Name   Brita Johnson
Age   70
Birth Date   Abt 1810
Birthplace   Sweden
Home in 1880   Carver, Carver, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number   122
Race   White
Gender   Female
Relation to Head of House   Self (Head)
Marital Status   Widowed
Father's Birthplace   Sweden
Mother's Birthplace   Sweden
Occupation   Keeping House
Gustaf Johnson

Age   30
Birth Date   Abt 1850
Birthplace   Sweden
Home in 1880   Carver, Carver, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number   122
Race   White
Gender   Male
Relation to Head of House   Son
Marital Status   Single
Father's Birthplace   Sweden
Mother's Name   Brita Johnson
Mother's Birthplace   Swe
Occupation   Carpenter
Minnesota, U.S., Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905

Name   Brita Mary Johnson
Age   64
Census Date   1 May 1875
County   Carver
Locality   Carver
Birth Location   Sweden
Gender   Female
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1811
Race   White
Father's Birth Location   Sweden
Mother's Birth Location   Sweden
Line   40
Roll   MNSC_5


Here in the 1870 US Census possibly is Brita living in Scott County, which you probably know is next to Carver County.  There's also a Gustaf Johnson a few lines down, however this Gustaf  was born about 1844 so I don't think he is Britta's son.

Name   Britta Johnson
Age in 1870   60
Birth Date   abt 1810
Birthplace   Sweden
Dwelling Number   89
Home in 1870   Belle Plaine, Scott, Minnesota
Race   White
Gender   Female
Post Office   Belle Plaine
Occupation   At Home
Father of Foreign Birth   Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth   Yes
Cannot Write   Yes

Name   Peter Johnson
Age in 1870   65
Birth Date   abt 1805
Birthplace   Sweden
Dwelling Number   89
Home in 1870   Belle Plaine, Scott, Minnesota
Race   White
Gender   Male
Post Office   Belle Plaine
Occupation   RR Laborer
Father of Foreign Birth   Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth   Yes


Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/ULA/11076/C/10 (1847-1861), Image 18, #168

Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/13e (1846-1850), Image 138, Page 130
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/14e (1851-1855), Image 140, Page 129
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/15e (1856-1860), Image 143, Page 133
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/16e (1861-1865), Image 127, Page 134

Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/16e (1861-1865), Image 128, Page 135
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/17e (1866-1870), Image 129, Page 135

Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/17d (1866-1870), Image 269, Page 263
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/18e (1871-1875), Image 130, Page 132
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/19e (1876-1880), Image 132, Page 132

Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/19e (1876-1880), Image 133, Page 134
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/20e (1881-1885), Image 127, Page 132

Västra Vingåker Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/20e (1881-1885), Image 126, Page 131
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/21e (1886-1890), Image 128, Page 136
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11076/A I/22e (1891-1895), Image 138, Page 148
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/1 e (1896-1899), Image 155, Page 1332

Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/2 f (1900-1905), Image 223, Page 1449
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/3 e (1906-1910), Image 252, Pager 1995
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/4 e (1911-1915), Image 246, Page 1995
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/5 f (1917-1922), Image 243, Page 1914
Västra Vingåkers kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/11076/A II a/6 g (1922-1930), Image 211, Page 2551
Lilla Malma kyrkoarkiv, Församlingsböcker. Bunden serie, SE/ULA/10834/A II a/6 (1914-1925), Image 168, Page 166

2024-02-05, 11:22
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Hello! Thank you for all of your help! I sincerely appreciate it!
I found a few things that could be useful:
I know all these are recorded as Hoglund, but G P Haglund appears in Minnesota, U.S., Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 in Helen Township, McLeod County which is right next to Carver County with a wife named Christine.

Declaration of Intent for a Gustaf P Hogland in Carver County. Different spelling but same area, it says he arrived on or around 25th of May, 1869:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9J-F9N5-Y?i=727&cat=2524787


1870 Census in Carver County for Gustav Hoglund:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6S6S-5HV?i=4&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMD4B-D6K

Land purchased by a Gustav P. Hoglund in Jun 1876:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9WS-BSZD?i=50&cc=2074276&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6K2W-LH3X

Marriage Record for Gustaf P. Hoglund & Christina Holm in Carver Co on 13 Oct 1883:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-YPSX-KW?i=373&cc=1803974&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX2RZ-LZC


2024-02-05, 16:50
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Bethany, I do have a candidate for your Gustaf P Haglund but I haven't been able to verify if he is correct or not (yet?). But I thought that I should mention him anyway. You mention thrulines so I assume you have your DNA tested at ancestry?

I do think that Brita Mary Johnson is Gustaf Johnson's mother in the 1880 census. And I also think that this family emigrated in April of 1869 from Gammalkil parish in Sweden.

I found Brita Maja Olofsdotter and her husband Peter Jonsson in a church register for East Union Lutheran Church in East Union, not very far from Carver. If you look at there is a note far left saying "Nu bor i Carve", meaning now lives in Carver:
Name   Peter Jonson
Gender   Male
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   16 Oct 1806
Birth Place   Gommelkils
Departure Place   Sv Lindköp län
Arrival Date   1869
Relation to Head   Head
Church   East Union Lutheran Church
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/62463578:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=8638e33d-cfed-4281-9f33-07f106a8e3a5&_phsrc=iJj47&_phstart=successSource

Peter died November 21st 1874 according to this record. They registered at East Union in 1869, not sure if the date is May 9th or September 5th. Depends on how you read it.

Anyway, Peter Jonsson born October 16th 1806 and Brita Maja Olofsdotter born January 13th 1811 emigrated with several of their children from Gammalkil. One of those children was Gustaf born April 18th 1850. Not sure if you use arkiv digital, but here is a reference:
Gammalkil (E) AI:22 (1868-1874) Bild 139 / sid 130 (AID: v25497.b139.s130, NAD: SE/VALA/00095)

They lived in a place called Högtomta. One could speculate if maybe Haglund was Höglund and inspired by that place...? But, as I said I haven't been able to verify that Gustaf P Haglund indeed was Gustaf Petersson (his patronymic was Petersson).

If you don't use arkiv digital then here is a link to riksarkivet:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015666_00121

You need an account and then it's free to use. You will find Gustaf Petersson further down from his parents on that page (birth month changed to February when he came back from Linköping in 1868). Here is an earlier book:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0075440_00112

Here is also a link for ancestry:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1194505:61085

I think that something happened early to both Gustaf P and Christine Haglund. This might be Carl John Manuel in the 1900 census listed as an orphan:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/26573980:7602?tid=&pid=&queryId=887eb7d1-bcc4-4555-aa7a-dfac573c36a6&_phsrc=nGx53&_phstart=successSource

The birth places for his parents are listed as unknown. Born about September 1886. It is a bit from McLeod county but closer to Iowa where his brother was living.

I also saw the marriage record for Gustaf and Christina Holm in 1883. There is a Christina Holm in Carver, but according to a church register (East Union) she married a John S Nelson and died in 1925. She was the daughter to Sven Anderson Holm and his wife Maja Andersdotter:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584

So there must have been another Christina Holm in the same area. Marriage record says they were both from Carver. No help from the witnesses, I think they were the family of the justice of the peace.

So, my question to you is if you have any good Swedish DNA matches that we could try investigating?

I will also try and follow some of the other children to Peter Jonsson and Brita Maja Olofsdotter. And see if that can give any clue as if they are correct or not.

2024-02-05, 22:37
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Kristina -
 wOw!! Thank you!! Yes, I did an Ancestry DNA kit. It said I was 32% Sweden and Denmark.
The emigration date would make sense if the Declaration of Intent stated that Gustaf arrived on or around the 25th of May 1869.
East Union is only 7 miles from Carver, so they are very close.

Carl and his brother Oscar were born in Plato... Carl on 19 Sep 1887 and Oscar on 28 Aug 1884 baptized at Bethel Lutheran Church in Lester Prairie.
I did find an Iowa Census form from 1900 listed as "help"

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2019365:7602?tid=189189992&pid=282456563744&queryId=05ddd789-5a11-4c64-b648-29832fe7b49e&_phsrc=ghX1523&_phstart=successSource

Good DNA matches... I have 2 ThruLine matches from Haglund through Gustaf. So that's a bummer. As far as I know, Haglund is my only link to Sweden.

I will go through the links you sent and see if I can come up with anything from them that might be useful!
Bethany

2024-02-06, 17:49
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I found something I think. By searching the old Swedish newspapers at MNHS.

There a couple of articles in different papers around the same date and this one is from "Svenska Folkets tidning" July 27th 1892. It is written in old Swedish.

Rough translation:
The carpenter Gustaf Höglund from Plato near Glencoe was run over by a freight train on the night of the 17th and literally split in half. He had laid down to sleep on the tracks while being drunk.

I think you have to go to page 4 yourself:
https://newspapers3.mnhs.org/jsp/PsImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=490da125-087a-46e1-a544-1414dc5347d6%2Fmnhi0013%2F1E0XSD59%2F92072701

2024-02-06, 17:56
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I cannot find any death records online for McLeod County (familysearch, ancestry, MNHS) for that time period (before 1906). Wondering if you could try locally now that you have a death date and place? Not sure when they started registering deaths though.

Also, he should probably be buried somewhere close there. Was thinking of maybe checking for burial records from local cemeteries as well.

Wondering whether Christina died before or after him...?

2024-02-06, 19:27
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Have you investigated the people listed at Oscars baptism?

Three Swensons...Erik Swenson, Mrs Anna Swenson and Swen (?) Swenson. And then miss Bertha Maria Ellingsen.

Bertha had Norwegian parents. She lived in Bergen, McLeod and remained unmarried. Burial through Lester Prairie in 1922:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4655398:60722

There is also a Swenson family in Bergen. Father Swedish and mother Norwegian:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/89664051/erik-swenson

They don'y have to be relatives...but hm...

2024-02-10, 07:53
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That would be a horrible way to die! OMGosh.

I am assuming that Gustaf and Christina would have been buried together.
I sent a couple of emails to see what I could find on the local end. I am currently writing a request to Gammalkil's church.

Carver County told me to make an appointment and search for them myself. I'm a bit far right now to make it there.


I found a couple of records:

Per Johnsson (is that the same as Peter?)
Census • United States Census, 1870
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD41-MPK

Britta Olofson - different last name though...
Migration • New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVR3-DNG6

#004539692 › Item 2 > Gustaf and Christina
Carver. Marriage License Indexes 1882–1944
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-YGRR-F?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX2T4-5NL&action=view

I found a bunch of Household Clerical Survey's from Sweden on Ancestry

I had reached out to the church in Lester Prairie before and was informed by the lady who works there that she is only part-time and would try to get to it if she could... that was over a year ago. I had asked if I could go there and look but never got a reply.

I just sent a couple of emails to the church in East Union and Carver County Vital Records. I emailed McLeod County a week ago and haven't gotten a reply yet. I could have sent the message to the wrong lady in the county..??

This might link Gustaf to the name Peterson:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/189189992/person/282553958335/mergefamily?dbid=9731&rpid=30136299&queryId=32abcffd-4b80-44cc-9d49-f2bcc94ec2e9&usePUB=true&_phsrc=tZT6&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Could this be Peter and Brita's marriage record?
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/27171:61612?tid=189189992&pid=282553958335&queryId=6e35b8ea-47b6-40f0-bd02-d0884df3bed4&_phsrc=tZT14&_phstart=successSource

A couple of questions -
Is Olsdotter the same as Olofsdotter?
Are these the same names for the children that you found for Peter and Brita?
- Anna Sophia
- Brita Karen
- Jonas
- Johanna
Carl Andersson B: 1828 (spouse?)
Anna Sophia Petersdotter B: 1835
Samuel Ericsson B: 1835 (spouse?)
Brita Karin Petersdotter B: 1837
Jonas Peter B: 1840
Johanna Petersdotter B: 1842
Clara Petersdotter B: 1845
Carl Johan PeterssonB: 1847
Gustaf P Höglund B: 1850

Sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

2024-02-11, 10:28
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Per often became Peter in the US and women's patronymic often change from ex. Olofsdotter to Olofson. Not sure if it is the correct Peter in Carver in 1870 since it is a very common name, but the person making the roll could have used Per for Peter.

I don't think you have the correct passenger list for Britta. She emigrated with her husband and two of the children in early April from Gammalkil. The link you have is for a different family who travelled in June. If you look at the bottom of the previous page you see this Britta's husband. I would assume the children listed after them are theirs.

Some people who left Gammalkil at the same time travelled from Gothenburg April 16th 1869. But I cannot seem to find Peter, Britta, Clara and Gustaf among them.

You do not have the correct marriage record for Peter Jonsson and Britta Maja Olofsdotter. They married in Gammalkil February 27th 1835. I don't think you will find that record via ancestry. They only have a selection of marriages from that time period.
Gammalkil (E) EI:1 (1819-1860) Bild 19 / sid 31 (AID: v37440.b19.s31, NAD: SE/VALA/00095)
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015684_00023

Peter and Britta Maja emigrated from Gammalkil April 9th 1869 with their son Gustaf and their daughter Clara (bMay 3rd 1845).

Their daughter Johanna (bSeptember 16th 1842) followed in May.

Their daughter Anna Sofia (bJune 24th 1835) never emigrated and she never married. She died April 25th 1903 living in the poor house unfortunately. So most likely there is no estate inventory made after her. I cannot find one.

Their daughter Brita Karin (bAugust 2nd 1837) never emigrated and she never married, She died in Linköping January 28th 1917. I found her estate inventory made March 8th 1917. In it only her brother Johan Bergman is mentioned but his whereabouts is unknown.
Linköpings rådhusrätt och magistrat (E) AIVc:42 (1917) Bild 3220 / sid 42 (AID: v761353.b3220.s42, NAD: SE/VALA/01683)

Their son Jonas Peter (bMarch 3rd 1840) died November 23rd 1861 in Gammalkil.

Their son Carl Johan (bOctober 20th 1847) changed his last name to Bergman. He was a shoemaker. It says in the household exam roll from Kimstad that he was in the US between the years 1870-1876.

Carl Johan lived shortly in Stockholm as well and I think this is his emigration record from 1870:
Name   Carl Johan Bergman
Birth Year   abt 1847
Gender   Man (Male)
Place of Origin   Stockholm Län, Sverige
Destination   St Paul (St. Paul)
Record Date   21 okt. 1870 (21 Oct 1870)
Port of Departure   Göteborg
Database Name   EmiHamn
Occupation/Title   Skomakare
Archive Call Number   4:351:1745
Principal Person   Bergman Carl Johan
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/636193:61637?tid=&pid=&queryId=890e5bb7-07fd-4fe1-b7fd-0520aa758ec1&_phsrc=hPz8&_phstart=successSource

Since he cannot be found in time for his sister's estate inventory in 1917 I am wondering if he left Sweden again.
I loose him in 1904 in the Swedish records, says he moves to Åtvid in 1904:
Vist (E) AIIa:1 (1900-1908) Bild 2800 / sid 266 (AID: v181561.b2800.s266, NAD: SE/VALA/00427)

So, maybe try and find Clara and Johanna in the US, and maybe also Carl Johan Bergman would be good. I would also check with someone at the church in Lester Prairie again.

Another suggestion maybe...I have had great help from MNHS finding my family in Minnesota before. I would also try them.

2024-02-11, 12:08
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2024-02-11, 17:41
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Here is another tree from Ancestry with a Johanna Johnson born 16 Sep 1942.  She married Andrew Frederick Anderson around 1870 and died 27 Jun 1886, Yellow Medicine County, Minnesota.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/49497685/person/20220509211/facts
Also the same woman at findagrave.com: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19029143/johanna-anderson
These may be coincidences but two of her children were named Clara Ellen and Johanna Sofia, also about a year after her death, in November of 1887 her sister Anna Sofia begins to be listed in the Gammalkil household examination records as Johanna Sofia.

2024-02-11, 17:52
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No, that is a different Johanna. I looked at her this morning. Their birthdate is the same which might have introduce the confusion.

The oldest daughter was born in Sweden according to the 1880 census. Most likely this family from Skåne:
Helsingborgs stadsförsamling (Maria) (M) AI:61 (1869-1874) Bild 234 / sid 380 (AID: v107156.b234.s380, NAD: SE/LLA/13171)

Also, her husband was John Johnson according to the same 1880 census. I don't get the Anderson part though....


2024-02-11, 18:01
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This is the 1880 census I looked at:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/33044798:6742

Husband and two oldest children matches the family in Helsingborg. I think someone matched her with the wrong family in Dawson.

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Sorry Carl, maybe you are right. The Johanna who married Anderson is interesting.

I think I looked at a different Johanna born the same day who also died in Yellow Medicine:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/63735769/johanna-johnson

Very confusing...

2024-02-11, 21:48
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It is very confusing with all of the Andersons and Johnsons!


Johanna Johnson Anderson's tree at Ancestry has the wrong year of birth (1841) for her husband Andrew Anderson, instead he was born 13 Jun 1847 and this must be him emigrating in 1869 from the Emibas CD.

Post 127348
Andersson, Anders Fredrik
Dräng (unmarried man)
b. 6/13/1847 in Sjögestad, Östergötlands län (Östergötland)
Emigrated 4/5/1869 from Ölsrorp Norrgård, Sjögestad, Östergötlands län (Östergötland) to Nordamerika
Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 317
Emibas migration file ID: Sjögestad E 1869 005


And here from Ancestry is their marriage  on 9 Oct 1869 at the East Union Lutheran Church in Carver County, MN.
U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Swedish American Church Records, 1800-1947

Name   Anders Fredrik Andersen
Gender   Male
Event Type   Marriage
Marriage Date   9 Okt 1869
Marriage Place   East Union, Carver, Minnesota, USA
Church   East Union Lutheran Church
Spouse   
Johanna Petersen
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30354600:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=5deac34b-06d8-4d99-a91e-b0289fa2f21e&_phsrc=MPd2516&_phstart=successSource

2024-02-12, 02:59
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Here possibly is Gustav's sister Clara.  12 July 1875, Carver County, Minnesota Clara Johnson and Jonas Gustav Hvadensten/Wadensten were married.  Witnesses were Peter Thompson and J.P. (or is that G.P.?) Haglund. 


Minnesota, County Marriages, 1860-1949

Name   Jonas Gustav Hvadensten
Sex   Male
Spouse's Name   Clara Johnson
Spouse's Sex   Female
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   12 Jul 1875
Event Place   Carver, Minnesota, United States
Certificate Number   Page 401
Page Number   401
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2R4-7PD


1880 US Census:

Name   Clara Wadensten
Age   29
Birth Date   Abt 1851
Birthplace   Sweden
Home in 1880   Carver, Carver, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number   7
Race   White
Gender   Female
Relation to Head of House   Wife
Marital Status   Married
Spouse's Name   John Wadensten
Father's Birthplace   Sweden
Mother's Birthplace   Swe
Occupation   Keeping House
Neighbors   View others on page
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
John Wadensten 30 Self (Head)
Clara Wadensten 29 Wife
Emma Wadensten 1 Daughter
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/33023247:6742?tid=&pid=&queryId=3e0cb140-75aa-4b86-9e8f-c86271f477dd&_phsrc=MPd2601&_phstart=successSource


1900 US Census:

Name   Clara Wadensten
Age   52
Birth Date   May 1848
Birthplace   Sweden
Home in 1900   Minneapolis Ward 12, Hennepin, Minnesota
Ward of City   12
Street   25th St So
House Number   2523
Sheet Number   10
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation   169
Family Number   202
Race   White
Gender   Female
Immigration Year   1872
[1873]
Relation to Head of House   Wife
Marital Status   Married
Spouse's Name   John G Wadensten
Marriage Year   1875
Years Married   25
Father's Birthplace   Sweden
Mother's Birthplace   Sweden
Mother: number of living children   2
Mother: How many children   3
Years in US   28
Can Read   Yes
Can Write   Yes
Can Speak English   Yes
Neighbors   View others on page
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
John G Wadensten 50 Head
Clara Wadensten 52 Wife
Emma O Wadensten 21 Daughter
Oscar O Wadensten 16 Son
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/26510494:7602?tid=&pid=&queryId=3e0cb140-75aa-4b86-9e8f-c86271f477dd&_phsrc=MPd2601&_phstart=successSource


Clara Wadensten died 8 February 1906, the death record lists her birth date as 3 May 1862; however there is a photo of her gravestone at findagrave.com which gives 3 May 1844 as her date of birth.
Minnesota, Hennepin County, Minneapolis, Layman Cemetery Burial Records, 1860-1926

Name   Clara Wadenstein
Sex   Female
Age   43 years
Birth Date   3 May 1862
Death Date 8 February 1906
Event Type   Burial
Event Date   12 February 1906
Event Place   Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Z7W6-QL6Z
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153553262/clara-wadensten


Here is an Ancestry.com tree with her in it.
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/62229683/person/36115700123/facts

2024-02-15, 09:13
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Sorry for being so slow! I'm having a hard time keeping up... LoL
I am completely new to navigating Swedish records and abbreviations. I'm used to the Pomeranian/German and Polish archives and records, so I'm figuring this out on the fly.

I emailed the churches in East Union Church and Lester Prairie. I haven't heard anything back yet.

I also contacted one of the funeral homes in the area to see which cemeteries were around the Plato area for Gustaf and Christina's burials. I'm assuming that Britta and Peter would be buried at the East Union Cemetery.

G.P. Haglund is Carl and Oscar Haglund's father - he didn't die until 1892 so it's likely that he could have been a witness at Clara's wedding.

I'm still confused by the name changes for Gustaf and his brother Carl.

In the Swedish Household Clerical Survey, I keep finding a Peter Jonsson with the same family, but with his brother's birthday listed. I think that some of the children's birthdates are wrong as well but the names are the same.

I'm just going to keep muddling through all the fantabulous information you've helped me with - because I wouldn't have gotten this far without it - send out some more messages to different places requesting records, and follow up with any responses.



2024-02-18, 01:40
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Hello Brittany, most people in Sweden during that era (with some exceptions) didn't use surnames, instead they used patrynomics, their father's first name followed by an "s" and with "son" or "dotter" added to the end.  Peter Jonsson was the son of Jonas Pehrsson so his patrynomic "Jonsson" was "Jonas" abbreviated to "Jon" plus "sson".  Peter's children were given the patrynomic "Petersson" or "Petersdotter", or sometimes you'll see "Persdotter" because "Peter" and "Per" are essentially the same name.  Later in the 19th Century men and women began using their father's patrynomic.  My grandfather born in 1870 before emigrating to the US was listed as "Carl August Petersson" and his sister born in 1879 was listed as "Evangelina Charlotta Petersson", the son and daughter of "Sven Petersson" who was the son of "Peter Andersson".


Exceptions included the clergy, soldiers, and tradesmen.  Gustaf's brother Carl Johan was a shoemaker (skomakare) so that would be why he took the name Bergman.  People were permitted to choose any name except one from the nobility and they only had to tell the parish priest that they wanted to use a particular surname. 



I think Gustaf probably decided to change his name after coming to this country, which was a common practice for Swedish immigrants to the US.  As Kristina Rylander suggested, he probably chose "Högland" (which later became 'Americanized' to "Haglund") based on the village "Högtomta" where they lived in Gammalkil before emigrating.  Also I think when Gustaf used the name "G.P. Hogland", the "P" stood for "Peterson".  My grandfather as I mentioned was known in Sweden as "Carl August Petersson", then he changed his name to "Wolf" after emigrating and usually wrote his name as "Carl A. P. Wolf" for "Carl August Peterson Wolf".


You mentioned that you found some Swedish Household Clerical Surveys with Peter Jonsson listed with his brother's birth day (November 16th).  It is possible that the parish priest when writing the books switched the birth days for the two boys.  However I think it was a coincidence that his birth day changed to his brother's birth day, because the priest did not also switch the year of birth (1806 to 1808).  The clerical survey books covered a period of between 5 and 10 years and at the end of the period, the priest copied the lists of people over to a new book.  Sometimes they made errors when writing the names and birthdates into the new book, or when people moved within the parish.  I am guessing that at some point Peter's birth date written as "16/10/1806" (October 16, 1806) was misread as "16/11/1806" (November 16, 1806).  I will do a separate post with links to all of the clerical surveys from after Peter and Brita Maja's marriage in 1835 until they emigrated in 1869.  You will see that this error was realized when the 1861-1867 book was created and his birth date was corrected to "16/11/1806".


You also might want to try contacting the owners of the trees for Clara Jonston Wadensten and Johanna Johnson Anderson.  Neither or them have parents listed for these two women, however it is possible one or both might know of family lore which could assist in confirming if Clara, Johanna, and Gustaf were the children of Peter Jonsson/Johnson and Brita Maja Olofsdotter.  Or maybe they have done DNA which can connect your families.

2024-02-18, 01:46
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1835-1869 Högtomta, Pukegården, Västra Krångestad, Gammalkil


Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/10 (1832-1839), Image 95, Page 85
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015654_00095#?c=&m=&s=&cv=94&xywh=-81%2C-91%2C5266%2C2755

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/12 (1840-1845), Image 100, Page 88
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015656_00100#?c=&m=&s=&cv=99&xywh=-550%2C1828%2C5266%2C2755

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/14 (1845-1850), Image 96, Page 84
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015658_00096#?c=&m=&s=&cv=95&xywh=-585%2C2048%2C5266%2C2755

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/16 (1851-1856), Image 96, Page 86
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015660_00096#?c=&m=&s=&cv=95&xywh=150%2C3258%2C5266%2C2755
Dotter Anna Sofia b 24 Jun 1835 Gammalkil 1852 Moved to Sankt Lars, Returned 1853 and now listed as pig[an] Anna Sofia Persd[otter]
Dotter Brita Carin b 2 Aug 1837 Gammalkil Moved up to top half of row 7, same page,now listed as pig[an] Brita Carin Persd[otter]

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/18 (1857-1861), Image 140, Page 126: Brita Carin only is on this page.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015662_00138#?c=&m=&s=&cv=137&xywh=458%2C1998%2C4352%2C2276
pig[an] Brita Carin Persd[otter] b 2 Aug 1837 Gammalkil 1859 Moved to Lodda, Gammalkil

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/18 (1857-1861), Image 140, Page 128:  The rest of the family is on this page.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015662_00140#?c=&m=&s=&cv=139&xywh=-400%2C184%2C5266%2C2755
Dotter Johanna b 16 Sep 1842 1859 Moved to Duseborg, Gammalkil

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/20 (1861-1867), Image 112, Page 140
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0075440_00112#?c=&m=&s=&cv=111&xywh=-137%2C261%2C5266%2C2755
Peter Jonsson birth date changed from 16 Nov 1806 to 16 Oct 1806
Son Jonas Peter b 30 Mar 1840 Gammalkil d 23 Nov 1861 Gammalkil
Son Carl Johan b 20 Oct 1847 Gammalkil 1864 Moved to Linköping
Son Gustaf b 18 Apr 1850 Gammalkil 1867 Moved to Linköping

 
Gammalkils kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00095/A I/22 (1868-1874) Image 121 Page 130
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015666_00121#?c=&m=&s=&cv=120&xywh=88%2C186%2C5266%2C2755
Peter Jonsson b 16 Oct 1806 Gammalkil; H[ustra] Brita Maja Olofsdotter b 13 Jan 1811 Ämtervik; D[otter] Anna Sofia b 24 Jun 1835 Gammalkil; D[otter] Clara b 3 May 1845 Gammalkil
Pig[an] Johanna Petersdotter b 16 Sep 1842 Gammalkil (Moved in 1868 from ?)
Dr[ang] Gustaf Petersson b 18 Feb 1850 Gammalkil ((Moved in 1868 from Linköping): 9 Apr 1869
All But Anna Sofia Emigrated from  Högtomta, Pukegården, Västra Krångestad, Gammalkil to Amerika


2024-03-06, 09:43
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Thank you very much for your help.!
I'll keep working my way though everything that the two of you have helped me with! I wish I could read Swedish though!
I'm trying to find Gustaf's death certificate to see if I can verify the name of his parents. While I wait for that I'm going to try and figure out Christine's story.!!


2024-03-09, 22:05
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Here's somthing I found interesting on at archives.com...
When I searched Gustaf's marriage record
It shows :

Name Gustaf P Hogland
Gender Male
Marriage Date 10 Oct 1883
Marriage Place Carver, Minnesota
Spouse's Name Christina Holm
Spouse Gender Female
Event Type Marriage
FHL Film Number
1434895
Collection Minnesota, Marriage Records, Early

And then when I click on View his story it shows his spouse as KRISTINA NILSON

https://www.archives.com/search/person?Country=USA&Location=McLeod%20County,%20Minnesota,%20USA&LocationId=1967&Region=Minnesota&LastName=Hoglund&UniqueId=307900:2561:447&recordurl=%2Fsearch%2Fmarriage%2Frecord%3FCountry%3DUSA%26Location%3DMcLeod%2520County,%2520Minnesota,%2520USA%26LocationId%3D1967%26Region%3DMinnesota%26LastName%3DHoglund%26UniqueId%3D307900:2561:447&clusterGid=190873425:9009:66

When I click on that name the 1870 Census Record for Dahlgren, Carver County:

Name Christia Helm
Age in 1870 12
Birth Date 1858
Birthplace Minnesota
Dwelling Number 20
Home in 1870 Dahlgren, Carver, Minnesota
Race White
Gender Female
Post Office Carver
Occupation At School
Father of Foreign Birth Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth Yes
Attended School Yes
Inferred Father Swen A Helm
Inferred Mother Mary Helm
Members in Household
Mary Helm (48 yrs)
Swen A Helm (41 yrs)
August Helm (7 yrs)
Collection 1870 U.S. Federal Population Census

any thoughts?

2024-06-06, 11:54
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Could these be Gustaf's parents in Belle Plain in 1870? Peter didn't die until 1874 leaving Brita a widow...

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