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Författare Ämne: Holm, Christina  (läst 1566 gånger)

2024-05-19, 18:01
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I am trying to find information about my 3rd great-grandmother Christina Holm (Christine?) https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GDY6-T1R

I am not sure where she was born. The "Minnesota State Census, 1885" https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQF6-XFK recorded her as born in Sweden about 1854.  I have not found any immigration documentation or birth records to support this. I also have no clue who her parents were.

She married Gustaf Höglund https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GL4H-7VD in 1883 in Carver County, Minnesota https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2TF-6Y5. They had 2 boys named Oscar George Haglund https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LRJL-H3X and Carl John Haglund https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GDY6-MLG. Both of them were born in Plato, McLeod County, Minnesota.

I have not found out when or where she died or where she is buried. Unfortunately I know very little about her.

I would be very thankful if anyone could please help me. All the information that I have is in the hyperlinks.

Thank you,
      Bethany

2024-05-20, 13:52
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Bethany!  Christina was born in Bolstad parish, Dalsland 1854-03-10. Her parents are Lars Olsson and Lisa Pettersdotter. She emigrated 1874-11-13 from Göteborg to New York. I think she got married in Caver, Minnesota 1883 to Gustaf Höglund. I will try to find more.
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2024-05-20, 14:55
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Correct date of birth is 1853, April  13, to Olof Jonsson and Kristina (Stina) Olsdotter.
Parish. Bolstad. Source: book of births and baptisms Bolstad (P) C:4 (1843-1856) Image 45 / Page 83 (AID: v13611.b45.s83, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)
Clerical survey here :Bolstad (P) AI:15 (1856-1860) Image 242 / Page 232 (AID: v3791.b242.s232, NAD: SE/GLA/13043) 


Emigranten Popular:

 
Efternamn:   HOLM
Förnamn: CHRISTINA
Ålder:       19 Kön: K
Född: 1854/1855
Församling: BOLLSTAD    Län: P
Titel/Anm:
Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1874 11 13
Destination: NEW YORK
Medåkande:   NEJ
Källkod: 8:603:5970

 

 
Her brother´s emigration

 
Post 552856

 
Holm Olofsson, Anders Johan
Man

 
b. 10/9/1856 in Bolstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)

 
Emigrated 10/8/1875
from Nygårdsåker, Bolstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)
to Nordamerika

 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Bolstad P 1875 003
*************************
Efternamn:   OLSSON
Förnamn:     ANDERS JOHAN
Ålder:       17 Kön: M
Född: 1857/1858
Församling: BOLSTAD    Län: P
Titel/Anm:
Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1875 10 22
Destination: MANKATO MN
Medåkande:   NEJ
Källkod: 9:525:140

 
Death of their father:

 
1807-10-20

 
Jonsson Nors, Olof
arbetare= laborer

 
Holmen nedre

 
Död 1885-03-28. died 1885. March 28.
estate inventory not found-
Kyrkobokförd i Bolstad (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Född/born 1807-10-20 i Brålanda (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Änkling (1871-10-06). Widower since 1871     --------------
Motsvarande folkbokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2023:
Bolstad, Melleruds kn (Västra Götalands län, Dalsland)

 
Källor:
DB, HFL (sida: 398)

 
Post-ID:
SDB7_06131469

 
Mankatois a city in Blue Earth, Nicollet, and Le Sueur counties

2024-05-20, 14:58
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Their residence in Bolstad was "Holmen nedre" - so surname Holm taken from that.

2024-05-20, 15:05
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Holmen nedre - photo - but not sure the same house Christina and her brother left.
https://digitaltmuseum.se/021018782166/bolstad-holmen-nedre

2024-05-20, 15:13
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Their sister Matilda b. 1864 left in 1882



Post 552940


Olofsdotter, Matilda
Woman


b. 4/13/1864 in Bolstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)


Emigrated 1/24/1882
from Holmen Nedre, Bolstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)
to Nordamerika


Source: Emibas migration file ID: Bolstad P 1882 008       Post 552940



Efternamn:   HOLM
Förnamn:     MATHILDA
Ålder:       25            Kön: K
Född: 1856/1857
Församling:  BRÅLANDA    Län: P
Titel/Anm:   
Utresehamn:  GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1882 08 11
Destination: NEW YORK
Medåkande:   NEJ
Källkod:     21:213:19312

2024-05-20, 15:29
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There were older siblings as well, for example:   Bolstad (P) AI:16 (1861-1865) Image 298 / Page 283 (AID: v3792.b298.s283, NAD: SE/GLA/13043) --  - but have not proceeded ---

2024-05-20, 15:40
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Christina had six siblings: Anna Cajsa 1848, she married Anders Fredrik Wester in 1871, Maja Lisa 1851, Carl 1857, Matilda 1860, Petter 1862, died 1862, Augusta 1866.
Christina returned to Sweden for a while. In 1882 the whole family emigrated even the the Wester family.
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2024-05-20, 15:45
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 A brother called Johannes Olsson left in 1871

 
Post 559795

 
Olsson, Johannes
Man

 
b. 11/13/1837 in Brålanda, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)

 
Emigrated 5/12/1871
from Bäcken, Grinstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)
to Amerika

 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Grinstad P 1871 013

 
however it appears from a clerical survey that he brought his wife and children with him.
screenshot below. (Grinstad (P) AI:22 (1866-1870) Image 20 / Page 7 (AID: v3754.b20.s7, NAD: SE/GLA/13159) )

2024-05-20, 15:49
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I am afraid Birgitta Berkemar is on the wrong track, sorry to say.

2024-05-20, 15:57
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 A sister named Kajsa Olsdotter married to Bryngelson and remained in Sweden.

 
1839-12-03

 
Bryngelsson f. Olsdotter, Kajsa

 
Rödjan norra

 
Dead 1917-04-17.

 
Registered in Bolstad (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Born 1839-12-03 in Brålanda (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Widow.
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2023:
Bolstad, Melleruds kn (Västra Götalands län, Dalsland)

 
Source records:
DB, FS (sida: 184)

 
Record ID:
SDB7_07241176 Swedish Death Index 9=====
==================

 
A sister Anna Lisa Olofsdotter married to mr Andreasson, remained in Sweden.

 
1844-04-24

 
Andreasson f. Olofsdotter, Anna Lisa

 
Stommen

 
Död 1925-10-13.

 
Kyrkobokförd i Grinstad (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Född 1844-04-24 i Brålanda (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland).

 
Änka (1905-07-20).
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Motsvarande folkbokföringsförsamling(ar) 1/1 2023:
Bolstad, Melleruds kn (Västra Götalands län, Dalsland)

 
Källor:
DB, FS (sida: 7)

 
Post-ID:
SDB7_07468900 SWEDISH  DEATH INDEX 9

2024-05-20, 16:08
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 A brother, Lars Olsson, left in 1872

 
Post 552834

 
Olsson, Lars
Man

 
b. 6/10/1849 in Grinstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)  (wrong parish of birth, correct is Bolstad)

 
Emigrated 5/21/1872
from Lillebyn, Bolstad, Älvsborgs län (Dalsland)
to Nordamerika

 
Source: Emibas migration file ID: Bolstad P 1872 005

 

 

2024-05-20, 16:13
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 A sister Britta Stina Olsdotter , said to be in America in 1872, according to a clerical survey Järn (P) AI:16 (1871-1875) Image 281 / Page 269 (AID: v4421.b281.s269, NAD: SE/GLA/13264).

 
here in CD Emigranten Popular.

 
Efternamn: OLSDOTTER
Förnamn:     BRITTA STINA
Ålder:       23 Kön: K
Född: 1848/1849
Församling: BOLSTAD    Län: P
Titel/Anm:
Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG
Utvandrdag:  1872 06 07
Destination: NEW YORK
Medåkande:   NEJ
Källkod: 6:381:201

2024-05-20, 17:26
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Christinas syster född 1848 hette Anna Cajsa Larsdotter, gift Wester  Bolstad C:5 sid 17
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2024-05-20, 17:40
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I think there is a mixup of Christinas here and I am a bit confused  :) . Also, for reference Carl Haglund and family has been discussed here:
https://forum.rotter.se/index.php?topic=197067.msg1668121#msg1668121

Christina Larsdotter born March 10th 1854 left for the US without notifying the registrar:
Bolstad (P) AI:18 (1871-1875) Bild 338 / sid 304 (AID: v3794.b338.s304, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)
Bolstad (P) AI:18 (1871-1875) Bild 354 / sid 320 (AID: v3794.b354.s320, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)
Here it says she left in 1874:
Bolstad (P) AI:20 (1881-1885) Bild 428 / sid 412 (AID: v3796.b428.s412, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)
Bolstad (P) AI:20 (1881-1885) Bild 414 / sid 398 (AID: v3796.b414.s398, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)

Christina Olsdotter born April 13th 1853 is said to have been moved to Vänersborg in 1875:
Bolstad (P) AI:18 (1871-1875) Bild 332 / sid 298 (AID: v3794.b332.s298, NAD: SE/GLA/13043)

They were both born in Holmen nedre

2024-05-20, 17:53
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Looks like Christina Larsdotter went by Holm. The family settled in La Porte IN according to a member register (think this is her father whose birthdate is 17/1 1817):
Name   Lars Holm
Gender   Male
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   13 Jan 1817
Birth Place   Bolstad Sverige
Departure Place   Bolstad
Arrival Date   1869
Relation to Head   Head
Church   Bethany Lutheran Church
Child   
Karl Holm

But I am wondering if she is the one marrying in Chicago in 1883?

Cook County, Illinois, US, Marriages index:
Name   Christine Holm
Age   28
Gender   Female
Birth Year   abt 1855
Birth Place   Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Marriage Type   Marriage
Marriage Date   12 Apr 1883
Marriage Place   Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse Name   Charles John Newman
Spouse Age   26
Spouse Gender   Male
Spouse Birth Place   Chicago, Cook, Illinois
FHL Film Number   1030131

Died in 1900?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MQ-79VV

Needs more digging...but if so maybe not the right one...?

2024-05-20, 18:00
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At least Christina Larsdotter Holm's sister Mathilda can be found in Chicago (I think) according to a member register (maiden says Holm even if ancestry mangles the name and birth date is slightly off):
Name   Mathilda Jackson
Maiden Name   Hohn
Gender   Female
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   30 Jan 1861
Birth Place   Bålstad, Dalaland
Departure Place   Bålsted
Arrival Date   1873
Relation to Head   Head
Church   Saron Lutheran Church
Child   
Victor Emanuel Jackson
Fred William Jackson
Arthur Albert Jackson

2024-05-20, 22:21
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Christina Holm emigrerade första gången 1874 enligt uppgift i Emigranten populär. Christina Olsson flyttade 1875 till Vänersborg. Så det var inte mitt "track" som var felaktigt Bo Nordenfors!
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2024-05-21, 06:42
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Thank you all for the information!!! I appreciate your time. I am just learning how to do Swedish Genealogy (Prussian was much easier!!). With the different last names, changing last names, along with everything else, I find it to be really confusing.   :-\

Where do you find the records?

Christina was married in Carver County, Minnesota in 1883 to Gustaf Höglund. Gustaf's family arrived in 1869 and joined the parish in East Union, Carver County.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GL4H-7VD

(The discussion regarding Carl Haglund was mine as well, I probably could have linked it to the post here)



2024-05-21, 18:46
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The references I gave are for arkiv digital, but the page numbers are often the same or one or two pages off for riksarkivet.

I think I found Christina Larsdotter Holm born March 10th 1854 in a member register for Salem Lutheran Church in Chicago. Her sister Mathilda/Tilda is listed on the row below with a note of marriage to Victor Jackson. The birth year for Christina is off by one year and immigration is listed as 1871, but I suspect that it is her:
Name   Christina Holm
Gender   Female
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   10 Mar 1853
Birth Place   Blästad
Arrival Date   1871
Relation to Head   Head
Church   Salem Lutheran Church

Christina is removed from the register in 1886 with no further notes. Tilda is noted as coming from La Porte in 1880.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30766017:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=e2b7e71c-bbce-41e1-a0f0-71b313d5275e&_phsrc=YUb2&_phstart=successSource

I think I will stop digging into that family for a bit due to the Chicago trail...

However, I also think the Christina Olsdotter/Olofsdotter Holm born April 13th 1853 that Bo found is very interesting. I loose her when she moves to Vänersborg...but the Minnesota connection is promising. Maybe track her siblings down and see what that leads to...?

For reference, this is her family:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0043080_00272

This is when she is noted as leaving for Vänersborg in 1875:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0043082_00281

Her father Olof Jonsson dies in 1885 but I cannot find an estate inventory for him.


Edit:
There is a note about Olof Jonsson being poor in the household exam so maybe that is the reason for not finding an estate inventory:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0043084_00349

Please note that the family above Olof Jonsson is the other Holm family discussed here  :) ...maybe they were related?

2024-05-21, 22:26
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Could this be Christina?

Name   Christina Jönsson
Birth Year   abt 1853
Place of Origin   Sverig
Destination   St. Paul (St Paul), Minnesota
Record Date   11 aug. 1881 (11 Aug 1881)
Port of Departure   Köpenhamn
Database Name   EmiHamn
Occupation/Title   Gift
Archive Call Number   4893
Principal Person   Jönsson Christina

2024-05-21, 22:59
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Here from U.S. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Swedish American Church Records at Ancestry.com is Christina Larsdotter Holm born 10 March 1854 in Bolstad with Carl Johan Nyman (Charles John Newman) born 5 Nov 1856 also in Bolstad.  Between 1884 and 1895 they had at least five children, all born in Chicago.  So most likely as Kristina Rylander suggested, this Christina Holm isn't the right person.
Carl Johan Nyman 5/11 1856 Bolstad Elfsb:s län
Christina Holm 10/3 1854
Charles Edvard 22/1 1884 Chicago
Paul Emmanuel 16/8 1889 "
Chester Oliver           "      "
Maria Geneva 13/7 1893    "
Erwin Carl Russel 20/9 1895 "

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/62470519:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=ee720e29-3c3f-43d0-88c4-ef6739d55255&_phsrc=MPd8215&_phstart=successSource


It's possible that the Christina Jönsson you found is the right person, however her title is "Gift" which means she was married.  Also in that era a woman who was the daughter of "Olof Jonsson" usually wouldn't have been called "Jönsson" but more likely "Jonsson", "Olsson", or "Olsdotter".

2024-05-22, 17:32
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I spent some time trying to follow Christina Olofsdotter/Olsson, and I am wondering if she is the one moving into Vänersborg 1875 but with a birth place noted as Gestad? Says she is coming from Bolstad:
Vänersborg (P) AI:25 (1870-1881) Bild 60 / sid 93 (AID: v44826.b60.s93, NAD: SE/GLA/13632)

If she is correct then I can follow her up until 1879 when she moves to Gothenburg:
Göteborgs Domkyrkoförsamling (O) AIa:16 (1878-1883) Bild 206 / sid 595 (AID: v35192.b206.s595, NAD: SE/GLA/13180)

There is a note there that I don't understand, but this is the last trace I have found of her. Can someone read what it says or what it means?

If she emigrated I am thinking she would have done so from Gothenburg and not Copenhagen (theory). But I cannot seem to find any good passenger list for her. Maybe someone else can? Believe she would have used either Olofsson or Olsson as a last name...?

Regarding the mentioned Chistina Jönsson, she travelled with a little boy, Johan Albert, 2 years old. I doubt she is the correct one, also since they travelled from Copenhagen.

2024-05-22, 18:56
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I think I found Mathilda Olofsdotter/Olsson in a member register for Grace Lutheran Church in Mankato:
Name   Mathilda Olson
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   13 Apr 1864
Birth Place   Elfsb. län
Arrival Date   1881
Relation to Head   Head
Church   Grace Lutheran Church (Immanuel)
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/62565821:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=27221cb2-a4f8-4436-a333-e20c05eb7561&_phsrc=nrx8&_phstart=successSource

Says she was born in Bolstad if you look at the image. So that places her in Minnesota.

Wondering if she was married to Henry Henderson...? Same birth date...

2024-05-22, 19:11
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There is a note there that I don't understand, but this is the last trace I have found of her. Can someone read what it says or what it means?
obefR = Obefintligas register

Here she is listed from 1883, line 36:

Göteborgs Domkyrkoförsamling (O) AIII:1a (1883-1890) sid 213
Hälsar vänligen
Maud

2024-05-22, 19:20
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Thank you!
So likely she emigrated sometime between 1879 - 1883.

2024-05-23, 08:26
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I'm trying to find a marriage record for Christina and Gustaf that (maybe) would have her parents names listed. Or maybe the East Union Parish would have something.
I've reached out to Carver County in the past inquiring about records. They won't look for you but invite you to look yourself. I've never gotten a response from the church either.

But I did find these Clerical Surveys:


2024-05-24, 18:19
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Ok, so to confuse things even more I wanted to throw in another Christina in the mix  :)

There is a Sven Andersson Holm born October 31st 1828 Åsaka living in Carver and member of the East Union Lutheran Church:
Name   Sven Anderson Holm
Gender   Male
Event Type   Member List
Birth Date   31 Oct 1828
Birth Place   Åsaka, Skaraborgs L
Departure Place   Skaraborgs
Arrival Date   1858
Relation to Head   Head
Church   East Union Lutheran Church
Spouse   
Maja Andersdotter
Child   
John Nelson
Clyde Alston Nelson
Kristina Andersdotter
August Andersdotter
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=d2c25255-ba08-44bc-b027-7cc86bccde90&_phsrc=nDp53&_phstart=successSource

It says he came from Sweden in 1858.

There is a Sven Andersson who emigrated together with a bunch of people to Minnesota in 1858 (he was from Klutagården, Barne-Åsaka/Lekåsaa):
Lekåsa (R) B:1 (1791-1859) Bild 104 / sid 201 (AID: v9437.b104.s201, NAD: SE/GLA/13323)

Looking at the last household exam he is in he was born October 31st 1828:
Lekåsa (R) AI:6 (1853-1860) Bild 76 / sid 18 (AID: v9741.b76.s18, NAD: SE/GLA/13323)
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/50527620:9731?tid=&pid=&queryId=c78d2a65-722d-4b1a-98d2-cb93e735fc04&_phsrc=Rxi21&_phstart=successSource

Older household exams have him being born October 30th 1828:
Barne-Åsaka (R) AI:5 (1847-1853) Bild 17 / sid 27 (AID: v9757.b17.s27, NAD: SE/GLA/13018)
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/21976209:9731?tid=&pid=&queryId=dbf14b5c-915e-414e-a11d-6cf21b18372c&_phsrc=Rxi24&_phstart=successSource

Anyway, his father died in 1867 and there was an estate inventory made after him:
Barne häradsrätt (R) FII:17 (1860-1869) Bild 8780 / sid 1747 (AID: v143458a.b8780.s1747, NAD: SE/GLA/11022)

Just says Sven is in America.

3 sisters to Sven emigrated after that, Johanna and Maja in 1868 and Christina in the spring of 1870:
Lekåsa (R) AI:8 (1865-1870) Bild 137 / sid 130 (AID: v9744.b137.s130, NAD: SE/GLA/13323)
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/16539650:9731?tid=&pid=&queryId=d3f59778-0378-473c-9a0a-5aad312194f0&_phsrc=Rxi20&_phstart=successSource

Christina was the youngest in the family and she was born December 22nd 1853. So I wanted to add her to the possible candidates.

Their mother Cajsa Svensdotter died in 1883, but I cannot find any estate inventory after her unfortunately.

This passenger list looks like it could be Christinas:
Name   Kristina Andersdotter
Gender   Kvinna (Female)
Age   17
Birth Date   abt 1853
Birth Place   Skaraborgs län, Åsaka Sn
Arrival Port   Hull, England
Departure Date   6 maj 1870 (6 May 1870)
Departure Place   Göteborg
Port   Göteborgs
Ship   Rollo
Volume Number   479727
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/526836:61637?tid=&pid=&queryId=3402c775-6fd9-4b6e-8923-a62a71561572&_phsrc=Rxi4&_phstart=successSource

Says her destination is Chicago, but since her brother can be placed in Carver I didn't want to rule her out. It is 13 years between her emigrating and the marriage if it is her.

I cannot find any trace of her in the US so I was hoping someone else here could help out  :)

Also, Bethany, have you looked at your DNA matches to see if the ones you suspect are on your Carl Haglunds side can be linked back to any of the mentioned families here?

2024-05-26, 13:47
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Here's somthing I found interesting on at archives.com...
When I searched Gustaf's marriage record
It shows :

Name Gustaf P Hogland
Gender Male
Marriage Date 10 Oct 1883
Marriage Place Carver, Minnesota
Spouse's Name Christina Holm
Spouse Gender Female
Event Type Marriage
FHL Film Number
1434895
Collection Minnesota, Marriage Records, Early

https://www.archives.com/search/marriage/record?Country=USA&Location=Helen,%20McLeod,%20Minnesota,%20USA&LocationId=46733&Region=Minnesota&FirstName=gustaf&LastName=Hoglund&UniqueId=307900:2561:447&resultsurl=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%3FFirstName%3Dgustaf%26LastName%3DHoglund%26Location%3DHelen,%2520McLeod,%2520Minnesota,%2520USA%26LocationId%3D46733%26facetsurl%3D%252Fsearch%252Fmarriage%252Fresults%253FCountry%253DUSA%2526Location%253DHelen%25252C%252520McLeod%25252C%252520Minnesota%25252C%252520USA%2526LocationId%253D46733%2526Region%253DMinnesota%2526FirstName%253Dgustaf%2526LastName%253DHoglund%2526NameOrKeyword%253Dgustaf%252520Hoglund%2526CollectionFilter%253D-1%2526PlaceIdFilter%253D515

And then when I click on View his story it shows his spouse as KRISTINA NILSON

https://www.archives.com/search/person?Country=USA&Location=McLeod%20County,%20Minnesota,%20USA&LocationId=1967&Region=Minnesota&LastName=Hoglund&UniqueId=307900:2561:447&recordurl=%2Fsearch%2Fmarriage%2Frecord%3FCountry%3DUSA%26Location%3DMcLeod%2520County,%2520Minnesota,%2520USA%26LocationId%3D1967%26Region%3DMinnesota%26LastName%3DHoglund%26UniqueId%3D307900:2561:447&clusterGid=190873425:9009:66

They lived in Dahlgren, MN
Her parents are Sven Anderson Holm and Maja Anderson (ANDERSDOTTER)
This Sven was born 31 Oct 1828 • Åsaka, Skaraborgs L and Maja Born
19 Aug 1821.
Maja's listed children: KRISTINA NILSON, JOHN NELSON, August George Holm, Clyde Alston Nelson, AUGUST NILSON
Sven's listed children: KRISTINA NILSON, August George Holm, Christin Holm, Clyde Alston Nelson, JOHN NELSON

2024-05-26, 13:53
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That is the same Sven Anderson I discussed in my previous note.

His daughter Christina was married Nelson. but he had also a much younger sister Christina who I am curious about.


Edit:
In order to view the links to archives.com you need a subscription there. This is one I don't have access to at the moment :-)

2024-05-26, 15:29
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I found a Christina Holm in Carver, but according to a church register (East Union) this Christina married a John S Nelson and died in 1925. She was the daughter to Sven Anderson Holm and his wife Maja Andersdotter:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584

So there must have been another Christina Holm in the same area. Marriage record says they were both from Carver. No help from the witnesses, I think they were the family of the justice of the peace.

2024-05-26, 15:32
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They had two daughters named Christina??

2024-05-26, 15:37
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No, did you read my previous post? And look at the linked member register?

Sven Anderson Holm had a daughter Christina born 1857 who was married to John S Nelson.

Sven Anderson Holm had a sister Christina born December 22nd 1853. This Christina emigrated 1870 with destination Chicago. Have found no further records of her in the US. I thought she was interesting since her brother lived in Carver.

2024-05-29, 18:24
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I'm sorry, I misread your last message. I am still trying to learn Riksarkivet.

I do know that the 1885 Minnesota Census (Helen, McLeod, Minnesota) has her age recorded as 31 yrs old and her est DOB as 1854.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQF6-XFK
&
1883 she was married in Carver, County:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2RZ-LZZ

I attached the images from Archives with the family living in Dahlgren:

Kristina Nilson born 4 Jan 1857 • East Minnesota -
Parents:
- SVEN ANDERSON HOLM & MAJA ANDERSON
(When you click on Sven Anderson it comes up as Sven Andersson Holm
Born: 31 Oct 1828 • Åsaka, Skaraborgs L. Dead: Carver County, Minnesota, USA
SVEN ANDERSSON'S FAMILY...
Spouse
MAJA ANDERSDOTTER
Children
KRISTINA NILSON, August George Holm, Christin Holm, Clyde Alston Nelson, JOHN NELSON.
On Maja Anderson it comes up as MAJA ANDERSDOTTER Born 19 Aug 1821
MAJA'S FAMILY...
Spouse
Sven Andersson Holm
Children
KRISTINA NILSON, JOHN NELSON, August George Holm, Clyde Alston Nelson, AUGUST NILSON)
No Spouse is listed.

Christin Holm b. abt. 1859 that died 2 June 1925 in Carver - Gustaf P Hoagland is listed as her husband
the Parents are: Sven Johan Nilsson Holm & Mary Nelson.
Sven Johan Nilsson Holm
Born 15 JUN 1840 • Västerlösa Östergötland 1841, Age 1 Dead: 6 Feb 1841 • Västerlösa, Östergötlands län, Sverige
SVEN JOHAN NILSSON'S FAMILY...
Parents
Nils Persson Holm KRISTINA JONSDOTTER
Spouse
Mary Nelson Maria Pearson
Children
August George Holm, Emil Nilsson Holm, Christin Holm
Mary Nelson (Maria Pearson when you click on her name)
Born abt 1828 • Sweden
MARIA'S FAMILY...
Spouse
Sven Johan Nilsson Holm
Children
August George Holm, Christin Holm, Emil Nilsson Holm, JOHN P HOLMES, KRISTINA NILSON

Maybe none of that from Archives is important  :-\


2024-05-29, 18:28
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i forgot to attach the images

2024-05-29, 18:34
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Thats ok. Lots of info here  :)

Where does it say that the Christina Nelson who died June 2nd 1925 was married to Gustaf P Haglund?

The church member register previously linked states she was Mrs John Nelson.

You have them both here (including a description of her death):
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584

2024-05-29, 18:37
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oh! Also, as far as DNA matches go...
When I go to my thrulines -
Carl Haglund: I have 2 DNA matches: My mother and my cousins daughter.
Gustaf Höglund: The same 2 DNA matches
Christina Holm: Zero DNA matches
Peter Jonsson (Is who I have for Gustaf's father): Zero DNA matches
Britta Maja Olofsdotter (Is who I have for Gustaf's mother): Zero DNA matches
Olof Jonsson (I used as Christine's father just to see): Zero DNA matches
Kristina (Stina) Olsdotter (Same as Olof Jonsson): Zero DNA matches

2024-05-29, 18:59
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the first image just shows Gustaf and Christina

Gustaf isn't listed as a spouse for Kristina Nilson, but when I clicked on Christina Holm's name on the Marriage record for Gustaf - Kristina Nilson's page was the one
what opened up, and then I just clicked on her parents names to get the rest of the information.

The Christin Holm has the Gustaf P Hoagland listed as her spouse

And the Kristina and Christin have variations in parents even though they are both listed under Sven

(Images Holm 2, 3, 4 & 8 i believe)

2024-05-29, 19:05
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I am really confused  :)
Opened up where? Which site are you referring to?

On the previous page where she is listed with her parents it says Mrs John S Nelson:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584

2024-05-29, 19:34
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Hm, so I found this family in the 1900 census:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/26140368:7602

And then 1910 census:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/148912473:7884

I am beginning to wonder if you are right...? Very conflicting info.
Could Christina Holm born January 4th 1857 be a sister to John S Nelson and the record say Miss not Mrs? It is handwritten, but looks like Mrs to me and it is stated wife on the next page.
She is listed as single in the census records....so halfsiblings maybe...? John being born in Sweden....then why Nelson for Christina? If she was married Hoglund then why not listed as widowed?

So many questions...  :)

2024-05-29, 19:53
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Found some newspaper articles about the tragic death June 2nd 1925. In those Christina is referred to as Miss Christine Nelson and school teacher from Carver.
https://www.newspapers.com/image/178984052/?match=1&terms=Christine%20Nelson


I am very curious to the record you found where it says she was married.

2024-05-29, 19:57
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oh sorry!
When I was searching for records on Archives and found that marriage record for Gustaf and Christina (which is recorded as Christine), I clicked on her name to view
her information and Kristina Nilson from Dahlgren was the person that came up - not a Christina Holm. That's how I came across the other information. But that's just on
Archives. I'm checking Ancestry and FamilySearch to compare information on each person

2024-05-29, 20:00
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Aha, then I understand. Thanks!

Maybe one answer...which could explain the Nelson last name...?

Could this be Sven Andersson Holm and Maja Andersdotter marriage in 1859?
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30354486:61584


2024-05-29, 20:58
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Kristina Nilsons information page on Archives doesn't have a spouse listed. Her parents names are SVEN ANDERSON HOLM & MAJA ANDERSON
There is one record attatched (1870 Census) to her.
When I open up that record it is for a Christina Helm (?)
And the parents on there are
Mary Helm (48 yrs)
Swen A Helm (41 yrs)

Not to further confuse you ...
But I think that Kristina Nilson and Christin Holm may be the same person (on Archives)

Christin has the 1880 census
The parents there are
Mary Holm (52 yrs)
Sven Holm (50 yrs)

Sven Holm on the same 1880 census form (from image Holm 22) :
the link on Sven Holm (Image Holm 23) on the 1880 Census for Christens name opens to the same Christen

Mary Holm on the same 1880 census form (from image Holm 22) :
the link for her name (Holm 22) opens up to the Mary Holm on image Holm 24.
If I click on View Her Story on the top of the census, the person it opens is Maria Pearson (Image Holm 25)

Maria Pearson has the 1870 & 1880 Census.
The 1870 census (Image Holm 26) has Maria listed as a Mary Helm. The daughter listed is Christia Helm.
Christia Helm brings me back to Kristina Nilson. If I open the 1870 census on Kristina Nilson the name Christia Helm (age 12) is what is listed.
The 1880 census (image Holm 27)  has Maria listed as Mary Holm. The daughter listed there is Christin Holm (age 21). When I open the link for Christin
I get the same census as image Holm 22.
And then the view her story link (Holm 22) brings me to Christin Holm (Image Holm8 from my other post)

***I'm tempted to send you my login information and all the links so you can see what I'm talking about***

I know that is really confusing, but I hope adding the image number next to everything helps...




2024-05-30, 03:29
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Here's a church register from East Union Lutheran Church listing Sven Nilson born 12/5 1830, his wife Maja Andersdotter born 19/8 1821 and their children Johan born 19/3 1854 and Christina born 4/1 1857.
Sven Nilson died 5/6 1859.  Sven Anderson born 31/10 1828 Åsaka moves in (after he and Maja were married on 24 Dec 1859 as found by Kristina Rylander) and an additional son August is born 14/11 1860.  So Sven Nilson is Christina's father and Sven Holm is her stepfather.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/62462156:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=bc1cde50-84fe-4bfd-8be0-4e3849bef5de&_phsrc=MPd8897&_phstart=successSource


Here from Familysearch.org is the death certificate for Christen Nelson's 2 Jun 1925 death.  Date of birth was 4 Jan 1858, her father's name was Swen Nelson, and her mother's name was unknown.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7N-LPVQ


I think these two records have previously been posted.  Sven Anderson Holm born 31/10 1828, Maja Andersdotter born 19/8 1821, and Kristina born 4/1 1857 leave East Union Lutheran Church 9/2 1891 and are added to Salem Lutheran Church's register on that same date.
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/30533710:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=d2c25255-ba08-44bc-b027-7cc86bccde90&_phsrc=nDp53&_phstart=successSource
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/62427266:61584?tid=&pid=&queryId=59e43e64-4d5c-4ed1-b92f-5b61df270360&_phsrc=MPd8906&_phstart=successSource


It sounds to me like the people found on Archives.com in the 1870 and 1880 censuses are all the same family, but I'm wondering if that website has correctly linked Christina Nelson/Holm with the Christina Holm who married Gustaf Hoglund in 1883? 
If so then Christina would have left her husband and two small children between 1887 and 1891.

2024-05-30, 13:06
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I would not trust that link in archives.com without any records supporting it. But I have not used that site  :)

This is Sven Anderson Holm and family in the Minnesota State Census for 1885:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4583142:1058?tid=&pid=&queryId=adf8e534-f645-4c9a-b4b0-0816ba76fc65&_phsrc=YDS41&_phstart=successSource

If the Christina listed here is his step-daughter, then she is not the one we are looking for.
I think John's wife was Emelia and born about 1850 Massachusetts. She lives with John in Carver in the 1880 census. Not sure when she dies though.

Christina is also living together with her mother and stepfather according to the Minnesota State Census 1895:
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1788146:1058?tid=&pid=&queryId=9c27df04-b4ef-4156-9e92-46fe19ee49b5&_phsrc=YDS42&_phstart=successSource

I do find Sven Andersson Holm's youngest sister Christina born December 22nd 1853 very interesting still.
And I also think that Gustaf Haglund's death record would be good to find.
According to MNHS you have to contact McLeod county directly since there are no online records that early.

2024-05-30, 20:05
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I have not had luck finding Gustaf's death record. I contacted a few different places and they don't keep record that far back.
However you did find the newspaper clipping
https://newspapers3.mnhs.org/jsp/PsImageViewer.jsp?doc_id=490da125-087a-46e1-a544-1414dc5347d6%2Fmnhi0013%2F1E0XSD59%2F92072701
for his death. Unfortunately it doesn't give much detail other than the train accident stating he was from Plato.

I've contacted the ELCA this is what they said pertaining to Gustaf:
At the time of Gustav’s death, he is linked to living in Plato – according to the news brief in Svenska folkets tidning.
Since Bethel Lutheran in Lester Prairie was the same county as Plato/Glencoe, I looked in the Bethel Lutheran Church
records for any funeral entries for 1892 and there were none. It looks like there are big gaps in the years of funerals recorded.
There are none recorded from 1892-1903, except for one in 1893 and none recorded from 1909-1913.
It’s difficult to say that it means there wasn’t a funeral for Gustav held at Bethel when there might have been, and it wasn’t recorded.

She didn't have any luck finding funeral records for Gustaf, his parents, or Christina. In looking at the census information for the families,
 it looks as if they pretty much stayed in the same areas: Carver County for Britta Jonsson/Johnson and McLeod County for Gustav and Christina Hoglund.
She suggested looking at local papers from those two counties, Carver County, and Mcleod County to see if there are any obituaries listed for Gustav Hoglund in 1892. It’s possible the obituary would list where a funeral was held and where the interment took place.
One thing she noticed when assisting people with these kinds of genealogical questions, is that obituaries were an important thing in terms of letting people know about a death in the area – since people would have
relied almost exclusively on the newspaper for news beyond their immediate circle. The Minnesota Historical Society has information on back issues of newspapers from the 19th century.


I agree with you about the Archives website. Same records for people - too many different names. It's confusing.

The Christina we are looking for was married in 1883 and wouldn't have been living with her mother and stepfather in 1895 unless she moved back in with them after Gustaf died, and her
children were farmed out. Which would explain why I found the oldest boy in Iowa and I believe Carl the younger one in southern minnesota.

I did reach out to McLeod History and they said unable to find any records for Gustaf & Christina Hoglund or their sons in their McLeod County files. The only suggestion we can give you is to check for
obituaries for the sons in the places they died: Oscar George-Windom, Cottonwood County, MN
and Carl John Little Falls, Morrison County, MN. Obituaries might give you clues about the parents.

I'm going to check and see if I can find any obituaries for Oscar and Carl.



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On Gustaf and Christina's oldest son Oscar's baptism record from the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 has his godparents listed. I thought they might be worth looking into...
Their names are:
Erik Swenson, Mrs. Anna Swenson, Swen E Swenson, & Miss Bertha Maria Ellingson

I found Erik and Anna Swenson on Find A Grave. Census records from 1870 - 1880 say they were living in Bergen located in McLeod County. 1900 Anna is a widow, still liven in Bergen with her son and his family
It says she was from Norway. And Erik from Sweden.
Burial info:
Cemetery:   Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:   Lester Prairie, McLeod County, Minnesota, United States of America

Swen E Swenson also lived in Bergen and attended Bethel Lutheran in Lester Prairie. He was born in Minnesota. 1880 Census says Swen M Swenson but Erik and Anna are listed as his parents.
Find a Grave Info:
BIRTH: 9 Mar 1865 Minnesota, USA
DEATH: 22 Feb 1959 (aged 93) Granite Falls, Yellow Medicine County, Minnesota, USA
BURIAL: Hillcrest Cemetery Granite Falls, Yellow Medicine County, Minnesota, USA
MEMORIAL ID: 98020044

Bertha Ellingson was born in Minnesota. Her Parents born in Norway. She also lived in Bergen. I believe she also went by the name Betsy. Her mothers name was    
Jane Ellingson. Her father was Johann "John" Ellingson. Jane and Johann married on June 10th 1858 in Carver. Johann died in 1865.
Jane:
BURIAL: Norwegian Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery - McLeod County, Minnesota in 1906
Johann:
DEATH: 10 Mar 1865 (aged 43–44) St. Louis City, Missouri, USA
BURIAL: Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery Lemay, St. Louis County, Missouri, USA

Johann was born in Norway and was the son of Elling Johnson and his wife Betsy. He married Jane(Thompson) on June 10th 1858 in Carver, Minnesota. Him and Jane had 4 children.
U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles about John Ellingson

Name: John Ellingson
Age at enlistment: 43
Enlistment Date: 9 Dec 1864
Rank at enlistment: Private
State Served: Minnesota
Survived the War?: No
Service Record: Enlisted in Company A, Minnesota 1st Heavy Artillery Regiment on 12 Sep 1864.
Mustered out on 10 Mar 1865 at Jefferson Barracks, MO.
Birth Date: abt 1821
Sources: Minnesota in the Civil and Indian Wars 1861-65


Co A 1st MN Hvy Art

Age: 43
Induction Date: 12 Sep 1864

Birth Place: Norway

DIED AT JEFFERSON BARRACKS, ST. LOUIS, MO 10/MAR/1865

ELLINGSON, JOHANN
PVT US ARMY
CIVIL WAR
DATE OF DEATH: 03/10/1863
BURIED AT: SECTION 45 SITE 1178

Ref: gravelocator.cem.va.gov

I was hoping that the families were tied together somehow ...
So - I wonder if perhaps Gustaf and Christina didn't live in Bergen. Plato is only about 8 miles South of Bergen and Lester Prairie is 2 miles North.
I also learned that East Union is Dahlgren Township. At least thats how it comes up on Google Maps. But thats right outside of Carver.

I did find a Florence Hoaglund born March 1880 in Minnesota, She was living in Bergen during the 1900 Census as a boarder and says her parents were born in Ohio.

I'm not sure how popular the last name Holm is but I did a search for Holm in Carver and McLeod county on Ancestry to see what names came up.

I found a Johan 'John' Holm he died in 1868 living in Carver County. Census of 1865 has him in Dahlgren.
There are a bunch of Holms that were living in Benton, Carver, MN including a Christine (b. abt 1863 born in Sweden) and a Matilda (b. abt 1849 in Sweden) Holm. I can't read what the names say on the 1885 Census.

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Here's the family of Christine Holm born abt 1863 Sweden in the 1885 MN census, from Familysearch.org.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQFF-RC2

Name Andrew Erickson Holm
Sex Male
Age 56 years
Birth Date 1829
Birth Year (Estimated) 1829
Birthplace Sweden
Race White
Event Date 1885
Event Place Benton, Carver, Minnesota
Page Number 3
Volume Carver
Other People on This Record
Ernestine Holm F 63 years Sweden
John Holm M 28 years Sweden
Peter Holm M 23 years Sweden
Christine Holm F 22 years Sweden
Mathilda Holm F 20 years Sweden


Here's the same family in 1880, except Christine is not listed and the son John had a wife though she seems to be missing in 1885.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9M-PGM

Name A.e. Holm
Sex Male
Age 51 years
Birth Year (Estimated) 1829
Birthplace Sweden
Marital Status Married
Occupation Farmer
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Self
Father's Birthplace Sweden
Mother's Birthplace Sweden
Event Type Census
Event Date 1880
Event Place Benton, Carver, Minnesota, United States

Andre Holm Son M 19 years Minnesota, United States
Emma Holm Daughter F 18 years Minnesota, United States
Ernestine Holm Wife F 57 years Sweden
Mathilde Holm Daughter F 16 years Minnesota, United States
Other People on This Record
John Holm M 22 years Minnesota, United States
Catharine Holm F 24 years Pennsylvania, United States


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