Johan Peter Wennstrom

[Deb Rennie]

Hi again from Australia,
This is my second post after getting such wonderful help with my first question. 

My husbands 3 x Great Grandfather Johan Peter Wennstrom was born on the 1st of Feb 1802 in Klara Stockholm  and I believe I’ve found his baptism record with parents Peter Wennstrom and Christina Kihlberg.  I also have found Peter and Christina’s marriage in October 1794.  From a couple of records I’ve found it appears Peter’s occupation was kusk (which I’m assuming is some sort of hired driver) and I think I found his death in December 1805.  I can’t find any more on Peter or Christina after this date.  I did note a Helena Kihlberg listed on Johan Peter’s baptism.  There is a Christina born to a Lars and Cath Kihlberg in 1771 and her father is also a Kusk but I’m just guessing at this point.  I’ve only found Johan Peter once on household records with both his parents and the next time he is 15 and alone probably starting his study to be a gardener.

My brother in law acquired an old book which shares some information on Johan Peter but nothing about his earlier years. 

Then he married Margreta Staaf and had 3 children the first born a daughter who passed away early followed by my husbands ancestor Johan August who came to Australia and lastly Carl who from the fantastic help I received on my first post died when only 23.  So when Johan Peter died in August of 1891 his estate went to those that worked for him as his only living son it seemed he did not know where he was.

Would love some help working out more about Johan Peter’s parents.

Thank you

I’ve attached an article sent to me via the Upsala University and a translated page from the book my brother in law purchased.  There are more pages sharing information about his life as a gardener and his estate and a court battle he had before his death.

[Bo Nordenfors]

This may be Christina Wennström nee Kihlberg. From Swedish Death Index 9.



1764-10-00


Wennström f. Kihlberg, Christina


Roslagen 2


Dead 1850-04-12.


Registered in Jakob och Johannes, Stockholms stad (Uppland).


Born 1764-10 (no place of birth)


Widow.
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2023:
Stockholms domkyrkoförs, Stockholms kn (Stockholms län, Uppland)


Source records:
DB, FIb:4


Record ID:
SDB7_13429402

[Bo Nordenfors]

Some hits from Population of Sweden 1800 -- 1947  (ArkivDigital)

[Bo Nordenfors]

Estate inventory for Peter Wennström:  Stockholms rådhusrätt 1:a avdelning (A, AB) F1A:363 (1806) Image 4770 / Page 467 (AID: v223001.b4770.s467, NAD: SE/SSA/0145a). Screenshot of pg 1 attached.

[Deb Rennie]

Thank you so much this certainly looks like her and her death seems to be in the same area her son is then living.  I will add all this to our family tree and hopefully now we have a birth date might find her family.

[Deb Rennie]

Estate inventory for Peter Wennström:  Stockholms rådhusrätt 1:a avdelning (A, AB) F1A:363 (1806) Image 4770 / Page 467 (AID: v223001.b4770.s467, NAD: SE/SSA/0145a). Screenshot of pg 1 attached.

Oh thank you … as I can’t read the language I don’t suppose it mentions his parents at all? I can see Johan Peter and his wife’s names.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Nothing re. parents, sorry.

[Bo Nordenfors]

From Familysearch.  Namn: Kristina Kihlberg Vennström
Födelsedatum: 21 september 1764
Födelseort: Örebro
Händelsetyp: Move
Händelsedatum: från 1839 till 1850 (från 1839 till 1850)
Händelseort: Stockholm, Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden (Stockholm, Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden)
Sidnummer: 35v
Referens: Inflyttningslängder 1839-1850 (Johannes). K062
Volymnummer: BI:33

Digitalt mappnummer: 005593218
Bildnummer: 245

Hur den här uppteckningen ska omnämnas
"Sweden, Stockholm City Archives, Index to Church Records, 1546-1927", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7FN3-35PZ : Sun Mar 10 23:57:06 UTC 2024), Entry for Kristina Kihlberg Vennström, from 1839 to 1850.

[Bo Nordenfors]

No birth records that year in Örebro Nicolai parish. But maybe she was born in a parish very close to Örebro.??

[Bo Nordenfors]

Peter Wennström´s birth parish seems to be Ornö.

[Bo Nordenfors]

Not found in Ornö.

[Deb Rennie]

Estate inventory for Peter Wennström:  Stockholms rådhusrätt 1:a avdelning (A, AB) F1A:363 (1806) Image 4770 / Page 467 (AID: v223001.b4770.s467, NAD: SE/SSA/0145a). Screenshot of pg 1 attached.

Does this give his age at death by chance?  Just seems if the Peter you found as the possible father of Johan Peter he would be quite old? 55 … or was that common? And 17 years older than Christina. 

[Bo Nordenfors]

He was 58 when he passed away, which is mentioned in the estate inventory and of course even in the book of deaths and burials. (Screenshot) Of course, I cannot guarantee that I have found the correct date of birth. He was much older than his wife, but maybe it was his second marriage? Btw my own father was 23 years older than my mother ....it was his second marriage, though.

[Deb Rennie]

Thank you for your help … I have their marriage document but I can’t read it …would that say if he was a widower?

[Bo Nordenfors]

No! Kusken -- hired driver .(coachman)

[Bo Nordenfors]

From an index attached to taxation rolls,Peter is a coachman apprentice, "225" refers to a page in a roll, but I am not able to find it.

[Bo Nordenfors]

 More and more concerned re. 1747, because there is another man with the same surname who got married in 1776 in Dalarö (not far from Ornö) and the bride is not the one you mentioned.
Look into https://www.ancestry.se/discoveryui-content/view/360995%3A60363
- screenshot )
and also another screenshot  from a clerical survey where it appears the  husband is not at all some kind of coachman! And not residing in Stockholm!!
So we rule out the one Wennström b. 1747 in Ornö. Sorry to confuse you,

[Deb Rennie]

More and more concerned re. 1747, because there is another man with the same surname who got married in 1776 in Dalarö (not far from Ornö) and the bride is not the one you mentioned.
Look into https://www.ancestry.se/discoveryui-content/view/360995%3A60363
- screenshot )
and also another screenshot  from a clerical survey where it appears the  husband is not at all some kind of coachman! And not residing in Stockholm!!
So we rule out the one Wennström b. 1747 in Ornö. Sorry to confuse you,

Yes I did notice that family yesterday once I changed Peters date of birth.

Seems I finally solve the mystery of Johan Peter Wennstrom and his wife Margreta only to have a new mystery with Peter and Christina 

[Deb Rennie]

From an index attached to taxation rolls,Peter is a coachman apprentice, "225" refers to a page in a roll, but I am not able to find it.

I do appreciate all your efforts in helping me solve the mystery of this family. Would this occupation see him staying in different areas?  He’s hard to find before he married Christina.