The brothers Sjunnesson born in Norra Vram

[Steve Palmquist]

Martin Sjunnesson changed name to Benson born around 1882 in Norra Vram (Bjuv parish) last known thing about him, is that he lived in Everton Illinois US 1901.  
 
His brother Emil Sjunnesson changed name to Stevens or Stewens he was born also in Norra Vram as his brother oved first to Everton later became a post official employee in Seattle in the state of Washington US married with Elisabeth (maiden name unknown) Stevens från Munka Ljungby in Skåne. he and his wife came from England (Liverpool) with the emigration ship Cymric to New York 27´s of august 1901 and directly moved to his brother above in Evereton Illinois.
 
They had three children:
 
Emil Robert Sigfrid Stevens (Stewens?) born 15/2 1903 in Everton, Illinois U.S. like his following two sibblings:
 
Mary Elisabeth Stevens (Stewens?) born 31/8 1906 (0r 1908?) as above and
 
George Emil Stevens (stewens) born 23/8 1910
 
I think the two brothers (sons of Emil and Elisabeth above) were unmarried and died in the 1980´and/or 1990´s but what with the sister and with their uncle (above):  
 
Martin (Sjunneson) Benson did anyone of the have descendents?
 
Emil Stevens and Martin Benson were my maternal grandmother´s brothers.
welcome to answer here or on my e-mail: stevepalmquist2004@yahoo.co.uk
 
Sincerely yours: Steve

[Steve Palmquist]

Hello again:
 
After searching the webb half the night and the above mentioned names. I found out that Evanstonis rather the right name of this town (or city). I had never heard of this place before, like I didn´t know Chicago was the head (capital) of Illinois. Well now it is just planted here for a possible answer in the future...
 
Best regards: Steve

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Evanston is a suburb north of Chicago, right next to the city and near (or perhaps next to) Lake Michigan.
 
Chicago is the largest city in Illinois but the capital of Illinois is Springfield.
 
I have never heard of an Everton, Illinois. I looked in the online 1895 U.S. Atlas and it was not listed.
 
http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/IL/Index/e.htm
 
You can see the location of Evanston on this 1895 map from the same site.
 
http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/IL/County/cook.htm
 
Judy

[Steve Palmquist]

Thank You Judy:
 
I am sorry I do not know very much about U.S., That was very kind and helpfull. I will study the links you´ve added, so I am getting better of North American geography! So I can try to find possible relatives!
 
Greetings: Steve

[Judy Olson Baouab]

I didn't find any of those people living in Evanston in the 1910 U.S. Federal Census. Perhaps more information might help someone help you.
 
 
Here is a birth year for Emil Sjunnesson.
 
1900 Swedish Census CD:
 
Johansson, Anton   1849   Father
Svensson, Johanna   1851   Mother
(Barn), Anselm   1875   Child
(Barn), Arpa   1881   Child
(Barn), Anna   1883   Child
(Barn), Amy   1885   Child
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Johansson, Fritz   1880   
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Olsson, Gustaf   1881   
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Eliasson, Samuel   1881   
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Sjunnesson, Emil   1877   
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Zinthio, Oscar   1881   
 
Record 680092
 
Sjunnesson, Emil
Mjölnaredräng
 
b. 1877 in Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Boy
 
Öfvarp N:o 4
Östra Ljungby (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
 
Place of birth (original source): Norra Vram Malmöhus län
 
Could this be your Martin?
 
1900:
 
Andersson, Ingrid   1836   Mother
Nilsson, Elof Anton   1865   Child
Nilsson, Emil   1871   Child
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Petersson, Carl Edvin   1880   
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Lavesson, Aron Frithiof   1881   
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Sjunnesson, Martin Theodor   1882   
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Hansson, Julius   1884   
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Petersson, Kristina   1870   
 
 
Record 527760
 
Sjunnesson, Martin Theodor
Mölledräng
 
b. 1882 in Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
Boy
 
Tostarp n:o 8
Tåstarp (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
 
Place of birth (original source): Norra Vram Malmöhus län
 
1890 Swedish Census CD:
 
Persson Sjunnesson, Nils Peter   1848   F
Josefsson, Elisa Maria   1855   M
(Barn), Emil Sigfrid   1877   Ch
(Barn), Klara Arvida   1879   Ch
(Barn), Ester Teresia   1881   Ch
(Barn), Martin Teodor   1882   Ch
(Barn), Johanna Elisabet   1888   Ch
 
Post 2468606
 
Persson Sjunnesson, Nils Peter
Handl.
 
b. 1848 i Ljungby (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Man, married (father)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Ljungby
 
Post 2468607
 
Josefsson, Elisa Maria
 
b. 1855 i Ljungby (Hallands län, Halland)
 
h.
Woman, married (mother)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Ljungby
 
Post 2468611
 
Emil Sigfrid
 
b. 1877 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
s.
Boy (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468610
 
Klara Arvida
 
b. 1879 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468608
 
Ester Teresia
 
b. 1881 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468612
 
Martin Teodor
 
b. 1882 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
s.
Boy (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468609
 
Johanna Elisabet
 
b. 1888 i Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Halmstads
 
 
Judy

[Steve Palmquist]

Hello Judy:
 
There are several of my relatives in your listing, but I do not understand the other names? (with different surnames...?)
 First:
 
This must be him!
Sjunnesson, Emil 1877
Record 680092
Sjunnesson, Emil
Mjölnaredräng
b. 1877 in Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
Boy
Öfvarp N:o 4
Östra Ljungby (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Place of birth (original source): Norra Vram Malmöhus län
 
second: this must be his brother:
Sjunnesson, Martin Theodor 1882
Record 527760
Sjunnesson, Martin Theodor
Mölledräng
b. 1882 in Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
Boy
Tostarp n:o 8
Tåstarp (Kristianstads län, Skåne)
Place of birth (original source): Norra Vram Malmöhus län
1890 Swedish Census CD:
 
This is the father and mother of them (and my grandmother as well)
Persson Sjunnesson, Nils Peter 1848 F
Josefsson, Elisa Maria 1855 M
(Barn), Emil Sigfrid 1877 Ch
(Barn), Klara Arvida 1879 Ch
(Barn), Ester Teresia 1881 Ch
(Barn), Martin Teodor 1882 Ch
(Barn), Johanna Elisabet 1888 Ch
 
Post 2468606
 
Persson Sjunnesson, Nils Peter
Handl.
 
b. 1848 i Ljungby (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Man, married (father)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Ljungby
 
Post 2468607
 
Josefsson, Elisa Maria
 
b. 1855 i Ljungby (Hallands län, Halland)
 
h.
Woman, married (mother)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): Ljungby
 
Post 2468611
 
Emil Sigfrid
 
b. 1877 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
s.
Boy (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468610
 
Klara Arvida
 
b. 1879 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468608
 
Ester Teresia
 
b. 1881 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468612
 
Martin Teodor
 
b. 1882 i Norra Vram (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
 
s.
Boy (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
Place of birth (original source): N. Vram
 
Post 2468609
 
Johanna Elisabet
 
b. 1888 i Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
 
d.
Girl (child)
 
Norra förstaden N: 5
Halmstad (Hallands län, Halland)
Place of birth (original source): Halmstads
 The last girl here is my grandmother Elisabeth Sjunesson (1888-1966)
 
I mentioned where Both Emil and Martin should have lived and where Emil´s children should have been born.
 
What happened to Martin (the brother) wno should have taken the name Benson I have no idea?
 
Emil Sigfrid Stevens or Stewens (born Sjunnesson) is that he and his wife should have moved to Seattle in the state of Washington and worked as a postoffice clerk.
 
One of his sons should have died in 1980´s (or begining ot he 1990´s) My cousin in New York was investigating this and found him in a parish in this city and she sent her son there who is a professor in a univerity (is that Colubia University?) in Seattle to visit him but then he had died...the only thing she could tell me was that he had not been married and had no children and she was not sure about the other son (mentioned above) had any family... Now i am talking about emil Sigfrid Stevens7sjunessons children!
 
This became quite complicated...he he. especialy those names you had put into the text. Why were they mentioned? Let me see now if this is understandable?
 
Sincerely yours: Steve
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Stevepalmquist 2010-03-04 20:43)

[Judy Olson Baouab]

The other people (without the specific details) were other members of the household, such as who the boys worked for or worked with.
 
Stevens and Stewens won't sound at all the same in English, and I've never, ever, heard of a name Stewens. Perhaps they used a different spelling of Stevens, which would be Stephens, but I doubt they used Stewens.
 
I looked for these people on the Social Security Death Index and didn't find them, unless G. Stevens is yours. The birthdate fits but he is in a Oregon. Oregon is another state in the western U.S.
 
Name   Birth   Death   Last Residence   Last Benefit   SSN   Issued
 
G STEVENS    23 Aug 1910   Jun 1984   97027 (Gladstone, Clackamas, OR)   (none specified)   531-07-1500   Washington
 
The site generates this letter to send for the application, which will have much more detail, but the cost of $27 (especially after you convert SEK to U.S. dollars, will be a lot considering we don't know who G was.
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Date of request: 04 Mar 2010
 
Social Security Administration
OEO FOIA Workgroup
300 N. Green Street
P.O. Box 33022
Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022
 
Please send me a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card (Form SS-5--Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy) filed by the person listed below.
 
I obtained this information from the Social Security Death Master file at RootsWeb.com, Inc. who obtained it from the Social Security Death Master file, originally compiled by the Social Security Administration.
 
My understanding is that the fee is $27, when the Social Security number is provided or $29 if the Social Security number is unknown or incorrect. Enclosed is a check or money order for $___________, made payable to the Social Security Administration.
 
Thank you for your assistance.
 
STEVENS, G
531-07-1500
Birth: 23 Aug 1910
Death: Jun 1984
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Address:
 
 
Daytime Phone Number:   
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I used the Advanced Search on this site.
 
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
 
Judy

[Steve Palmquist]

Hello again Judy!  
I do agree about Stewens, I have never heard about such a spelling before, but it is not me who made it up.... It was written down so, as an alternative side by side with Stevens....and I do not know why?
 
Nothing of the above is my facts It is of course things I have found in written documents! I only knew the (first) christian names of my grandmother Elisabeth and her four sibblings; Emil, Klara, Martin and Ester. Which I remember from my childhood.  
And her parents name which I got some years ago, and the other names (I wrote above) I found here at anbytarforum earlier. But now some of them are confirmed of course, thanks to your work!  
It is great, thank you Judy.  
 
Good that you gave me the other names aswell thsoe who had worked with the boys or how it functioned...
 
I think I wait with sending that form...it is quite expensive, especially as you said, not knowing if that is the right person!. I use ancestry sometimes etc. It may pop up more infos here or during searching the web...?!
 
Thanks alot Judy!!!
 
MVH Steve

[Carl Wolf]

Here is a World War I draft registration card for Emil Sigfrid Stevens completed on 12 Sep 1918, in case the birth date matches your relative.
 
Name:     Emil Sigfrid Stevens
City:    Seattle
County:    King
State:    Washington
Birth Date:    27 Jul 1877
Race:    White
 
His address was 7444 East Green Lake Way in Seattle, and his closest relative was Mrs. Elisabeth Stevens, living at the same address.

[Carl Wolf]

Here is more about the G. Stevens that Judy found.
 
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about George E Stevens
Name:    Stevens, George E
County:    Clackamas
Death Date:    4 Jun 1984
Certificate:    84-10402
Age:    73
Birth Date:    23 Aug 1910
Spouse:    Alice

[Steve Palmquist]

Thank You so much Carl and again my thanks to Judy, for this great helpfullnes to find out what became of my grandmothers brothers and some of their descendents.  
 
From a private mail I got this aswell from a great helper This is a death record for Emil S. Stevens with a mother of the name Elise Sjunnesson.  Emil died September 17, 1957 in Seattle, King County, Washington State.  and the following site she sent me, which I will use:  
 
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/ViewRecord.aspx?RID=C433144387A57D61382E1546F1 52948D
 
So now I got more about Emil Sigfrid 8the senior) and he had lived at least through the first world war with his wife Elisabeth together at the same addres. George the youngest son died as above and had a wife called Alice. Very interesting they could have had children and even descendents then!(?)
 
Clackamas must be in the state of Oregon?
 
Now I will write this in front of me so I can get everything puzzled together..I am deeply thanksfull and it is exciting...
 
Myr best regards: Steve

[Steve Palmquist]

And now the daughter of Emil sigfrid (senior) and his wife Mary Elisabeth slso called Mary Elisabeth Stevens born 31/8 1906 (0r 1908?). I couldn´t read if it was 6 or 8(...)
 
and Emil Sigfrids brother:
 
Martin Sjunnesson who changed name to Benson, born around 1882 in Norra Vram (Bjuv parish) last known thing about him SS I WROTE ABOVE, is that he lived in Evanston Illinois US 1901. But I also found another thing; that he maybe didn´t arrived to the U.S. before 1902.(?).
 
I just write it down here, so I can check it up again later...
 
Sincerely yours: Steve

[Steve Palmquist]

I have now an even greater respect for You who even found my relatives above...I have, since I got the first notes from You Judy and later Carl, searched the above mentioned sites and archives and others I found along the way. Thousunds of similar names to the above mentioned persons mostly in Evanstone/Chicago/Illinois area or Seattle/the state of Washington (but one never know if they moved somewhere else...). Well I did find the same names with the same data as mentioned above, but I cannot find any kind of cennections between them further on. I mean is  there no children/descendents of them or if so any possible posssibility to say no or yes there may be?! Nor so with Emil Sigfrid´s (junior) uncle Martin Benson (born Sjunnesson), or the sister of him (if she survived the first years?) and of course I searched for Sjunnesson as well...same results. No possible connections...
How Judy and Karl (who have been so kind and helpfull already!) and others who tried it before, could one find them?  
I have searched in Europe and Germany before but that research had other problems (mostly destroyed archives..nothing to do or wait for reconstructions...)but if one could find them one could often trace other relatives easier, but here every person seems not connected to anyone else (except in U.S archives; to cases a mother and a wife is mentioned...)
 
Sincerely yours: Steve
 
(Meddelandet ändrat av Stevepalmquist 2010-03-08 13:46)