Författare Ämne: Äldre inlägg (arkiv) till 10 juli, 2015 (läst 6964 gånger)

Lennart Julihn · 2015-02-14, 17:38

Var i Mjällby ligger (eller låg) byn Grönadal? Jag har sökt efter den på både äldre och nyare kartor utan framgång. Den bebos i huvudsak av fiskare och förefaller ligga i närheten av Hällevik, men på 1800-talet har den hemmansnummer 89 som tillhör Hörby och antyder ett läge i närheten av kyrkbyn.

Mvh Lennart

Stefan Magnusson · 2015-02-16, 11:44

En och annan person som anges vara född på Grönadal i födelselängden har jag hittat i korresponderande husförhörslängd på 87 & 88 Hörby (som senare benämns 19 & 20 Hörby och sedemera 1 Knutstorp).

Jan-Olov Svensson · 2015-03-22, 21:55

Söker uppgifter om Inga Olasdotter. Född 1791-03-29 Mjällby(K) CI/3 Sid 162.
Hon och sonen Sven finns i husförhörslängden AI/2 Sid 302. Där anges att hon flyttar till Jönköping men där har jag inte lyckats finna henne eller sonen.
Sonen Sven dyker 1847 upp i Härlunda(G) med efternamnet Svensson (AI/10 Sid 153).
Finns det någon som har några uppgifter om dem. Var tar Inga vägen, får hon fler barn och varifrån får sonen Sven efternamnet Svensson.

Stefan Magnusson · 2015-03-25, 07:33

Jag har Inga och Sven, född 13/6 1815, i mitt mormors släktträd och jag har hittat Sven skriven på 101 Stiby hos sin mormor Elna Göransdotter.

Mjällby AI:5 (1831-1835) Bild 1520 / sid 146

Jan-Olov Svensson · 2015-03-25, 14:51

Hej Stefan.
Sven är min farmors far. Om du har honom i din mormors släktträd måste vi vara släkt på något sätt.
Jag har fått en mängd information om Sven från Stig Svensson. Jag har påbörjat att dokumentera allt detta och jag tror att jag har de flesta uppgifterna om honom från födelsen i Mjällby tills han dyker upp i Härlunda. Sedan tidigare har jag alla uppgifter om Sven från det han dyker upp i Härlunda tills han år 1894 avlider i Skatelöv.

Det som jag fortfarande inte vet något om är var Inga Olasdotter tar vägen år 1818. Det står att hon flyttar till Jönköping men där har jag inte lyckats hitta henne. Jönköpings kyrkböcker upplever jag som svårt att hitta i.

Mvh Jan-Olov

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David Carlson · 2015-07-06, 05:38

Mjällby AI:18 (1879-1887) Image 2390 / page 480 (AID: v96423a.b2390.s480, NAD: SE/LLA/13269) says that Bengta Olasdotter departed for America on 9 May 1882. Per Carl Wolf I know that she was in Morrison IL in 1895 according to her father's estate inventory. But, I cannot find her in America. Unfortunately, there is no 1890 census, so the first one is almost 20 years after she arrived. Suggestions? What names would you expect her to take? Bessie? Thanks.

Anders Jönsson · 2015-07-06, 11:51

Hello David. Olasdotter is a quit comman namn at that time.

There were no secound namn in the information from Carl Wolf ?

Please try, Olasson, Olsson or Olausson, Spelling signel or bubble s.

Best regards
Anders

David Carlson · 2015-07-06, 15:54

Any idea on how she might have changed her first name when she came to America?

The estate papers at Listers häradsrätt FII:42 (1894-1895) Image 5350 / page 533 (AID: v157233.b5350.s533, NAD: SE/LLA/10038), middle of right page, says something that looks like she was married. Can someone translate that for me? Thanks.

David Carlson · 2015-07-06, 16:27

Johan Olsson who was also mentioned in the papers, Ola's other son, went to American in 1897 and 1902 per Mjällby AIIa:2 (1897-1911) Image 27 / page 486 (AID: v184825.b27.s486, NAD: SE/LLA/13269). Any thoughts on why he may have done that? 1902 may be because his mother, who was in America also died, but I have not found her death record. Was this kind of travel frequent in those days? I have not see it before but my record searches are limited.

Monica E. Fogelqvist · 2015-07-06, 16:28

Hi David, I think you already have an answer to your question here

Anders Jönsson · 2015-07-06, 16:38

David, your first question:

Bengta marrid to A B Andersson from Mjellby, settled in Morison Ill
North Amerika.

Regards
Anders

David Carlson · 2015-07-07, 02:45

Bad me. Thanks. I will assume his link of her in Whiteside, Illinois is correct as Bessie.

David Carlson · 2015-07-07, 23:02

In Mjällby CI:5 (1811-1841) Image 16 / page 25 (AID: v96438.b16.s25, NAD: SE/LLA/13269), an ancestor Jons Svensson is born to Sven Jonsson and Karna Mansdotter. Can someone tell me where he was born and what the words in front of his father say? Thanks.

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-08, 15:51

Hi David,

Jöns Svensson born 1814-02-20, father Förstärkningskarlen Sven Jönsson, mother Karna Hansdotter in Hosaby (probably), however Hosaby 1814 start on Mjällby AI:1 (1804-1814) Bild 850 / sid 128 (AID: v96406a.b850.s128, NAD: SE/LLA/13269) and I have not found them there, but I paged through rather fast. Förstärkningskarl is an extra, temporary soldier, and you can read (?) more about them here.

Margareta Danielsson · 2015-07-08, 17:30

Hi David

Sven got the name Avelberg as a boatswain. Before it was Pilt. You can find them here.

Mjällby CI:4 (1801-1815) sid 359 (AID: v96437.b172.s359) Married Nov 1 1812 Dr. Sven Jönsson i Hosaby och pigan Karna Hansdotter i Hörby.
Mjällby AI:2 (1815-1819) sid 190 (AID: v96407a.b1940.s190) Hosaby
Mjällby AI:3 (1820-1825) sid 134 (AID: v96408a.b1390.s134) Hosaby
Mjällby AI:4 (1826-1830) sid 99 (AID: v96409a.b1030.s99) Hosaby

http://www.blekingesf.se/db/getperson.php?personID=I178411&tree=1

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David Carlson · 2015-07-08, 18:57

In Mjällby AI:5 (1831-1835) Image 1140 / page 110 (AID: v96410a.b1140.s110, NAD: SE/LLA/13269) I believe it says Pehr Olsson and his wife Anna Nilsdotter were absolved in 1832, 33, and 34. What does that mean?

David Carlson · 2015-07-08, 19:32

Thanks Leif and Margareta. More than I could have hope for.

Göran Svensson · 2015-07-08, 22:26

David,

In this case abs don't mean absolved but absens which means they didn't show up at the parish catechetical meeting.

Regards
Göran

David Carlson · 2015-07-08, 23:37

Thanks.

David Carlson · 2015-07-09, 15:51

In Mjällby AI:7 (1840-1845) Image 620 / page 58 (AID: v96412a.b620.s58, NAD: SE/LLA/13269) the daughter of my ancestor, Bengta Nilsdotter, has gone off on her own. I can't figure out where she went from her. There appears to be a note to the right of her name that I cannot decipher. Can anyone help? Thanks.

David Carlson · 2015-07-09, 16:27

In Mjällby AI:11 (1862-1866) Image 1530 / page 147 (AID: v96416a.b1530.s147, NAD: SE/LLA/13269), Hanna Nilsdotter, Bengta's sister is shown. Her husband has a new title and words after his name that I need help understanding. Previously he had Cirkel after his name and now that has disappeared. Any reason for that as well? Thanks.

David Carlson · 2015-07-09, 16:55

There is also a new daughter appearing that is said to have been born in Bornholm, Denmark? She came her a year after birth. Was she born out of wedlock?

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-09, 18:07

Nils Olsson Cirkel was earlier a Båtsman (Bsm) and Cirkel was his soldier's name. He just dropped it when he no longer was Båtsman. The word after his name is probably fallandesot, epilepsy. There is also a note to the right that say Har barn, för hwilket fosterlön årligen erläggs, Has a child, for which foster salary annually is paid, and that child is probably Hanna, born 1858 23/1.

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-09, 18:19

Blenda seems to be Nils Olssons child, born in Bornholm, Denmark, that arrived to her father eight months old. Was he a married sailor that made children in Bornholm?

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-09, 18:39

Bengta Nilsdotter moves to page 199 in the same volume. On page 58 it also say Jåen (Jaen?) Nilssons i S???, and I don't know why.

David Carlson · 2015-07-09, 19:57

Thanks for finding Bengta again, I will try to trace further.

There are some letters in front of Nils name on this page. Can you figure out what they are?

In Mjällby AI:18 (1879-1887) Image 580 / page 299 (AID: v96423a.b580.s299, NAD: SE/LLA/13269), after Nils has died, a Nils Herrman joins the family with some notation in front of his name that ends in Son. What does that mean? He is also at the bottom of Mjällby AI:17 (1879-1887) Image 2220 / page 219 (AID: v96422a.b2220.s219, NAD: SE/LLA/13269), if that helps to read it. You can see here that Nils son August is a Seaman, maybe like his father.

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-09, 23:29

Nils Herrman joins the family by birth. The record read Blendas oä (oäkta, bastard, is that the right translation?) son Nils Herrman. And Blenda made it in Bornholm! AI:17 page 219 say the same thing, her bastard son.

Hsve you references to Nils in the volumes between A!:11 and AI:18?

David Carlson · 2015-07-10, 05:16

Thanks. I have references for Nils Olsson Cirkel until AI:13, when he dies. Herrman is not of interest as he is not a blood relative (Nils Olsson's wife Hanna is the link). I have her traced all the way to AIIa-6 when she dies in 1902 at age 70. One of her sons, August, died of TB in 1892 and the other I lost in Gammalstorp in 1885. Since he is lower priority, I have left him until I more time.

David Carlson · 2015-07-10, 05:27

I forgot to tell you that your translation of oäkta is correct.

Leif Lundkvist · 2015-07-10, 12:09

OK, in AI:13 it is clear that Nils is Inh, Inhyst, and utf, utfattig. In AI:11 I interpret it as his status is changed from Husm, Husman, to what looks like Ihs and probably is another abbrevation of Inhyst. He is young but with severe epilepsy. A Husman has a house without farm land, probably not the owner, but maybe (both are possible).