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Författare Ämne: Anton Asplund  (läst 1505 gånger)

2003-09-24, 18:23
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karen pauley

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I am seeking information on Anton Asplund, born March 4, 1874 in Aleby, Sweden.  He emigrated to America sometime after 1896 and probably before 1900, but I am not sure of the date.  would appreciate any information regarding Anton Asplund that you could provide me.  Thank you very much!!!
Karen Pauley

2003-09-24, 23:44
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Hi Karen,
 
I think I found the person you're looking for.
 
There is an Anton Asplund, born 1874, in Åleby, in the parish of Norra Råda annex, in the county of Värmland. He's son of Jonas Asplund in Åleby, born 1834 (in Norra Råda) and Annika Eliasdotter, born 1837 (in Norra Råda).
 
I found his family through the 1890 census, which is available online. Go the following URL and you see his family, including parents and siblings.
 
http://www.foark.umu.se/folk/s/person.asp?lannr=17&forsnr=82&pnr=7244&selarkbild=Norra+Råda
 
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2003-09-25, 00:16
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Hi Karen,
 
Maybe this is the emigration of your Anton.The J could stand for Jonasson = Jonas' son, son of Jonas), which would be his patronymic name.
 
From the Emihamn database of CD Emigranten (the Emigrant CD):
 
First name: A J
Last name: ASPLUND
Age: 22     Gender: M
Parish: RÅDA     County: S (Värmland)
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1896 04 22 (date of registration with the police to leave Sweden)
Destination: TWO HARBOR
Fellows: NEJ (Nej = no. He traveled alone on his ticket.)
Source: 57:424:68159
 
This person, who had already been to the U.S., left Sweden on the same day to go to the same location.Their ticket numbers are almost the same.
 
First name: PER
Last name: LUNDIN
Age: 34     Gender: M
Parish: AMERIKA     County: US
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1896 04 22
Destination: TWO HARBOR
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 57:424:68158
 
From the 1900 Swedish Census for Värmland county, on the fee-based Arkion site:
 
http://www.arkion.se
 
Homeparish: Norra Råda
Residence: Åleby 1/4 mtl
County: Värmland
SVARvolume: CB1192  Card nr: 1
Page: 175  Row: 1
 
F = född = born.
 
Persons in the household
Fam nr: 1
Widower Jonas Asplund f. 1834 in N. Råda, Egare (owner; of the farm, I guess)
s. Olof Reinhold f. 1882 in N. Råda
Fam nr: 2
Hjalmar Emanuel f. 1879 in N. Råda
s. Joel Gunnar f. 1898 n N. Råda
 
Homeparish: Norra Råda
Residence: Syningen
County: Värmland
SVARvolume: CB1192  Card nr: 1
Page: 132  Row: 24
 
Persons in the household
Fam nr: 1
Nils Olsson Sundell f. 1871 in N. Råda, arb.(worker)
wife Emma Kristina Asplund f. 1871 in N. Råda
s. Frans Olof Natanael f. 1899 in N. Råda
 
Homeparish: Norra Råda
Residence: Stenåsen
County: Värmland
SVARvolume: CB1192  Card nr: 1
Page: 134  Row: 33
 
Persons in the household
Fam nr: 1
Per Nilsson Lundin f. 1862 in N. Råda, Nyb.(?), arb.(worker)
wife Maria Kajsa Asplund f. 1862 in N. Råda
d. Lydia Persdotter Lundin f. 1887 in N. Råda
s. Nils Herbert f. 1895 in N. Råda
d. Hanna Teresia f. 1898 in N. Råda
d. Svea Paulina f. 1900 in N. Råda
 
Judy

2003-09-26, 16:48
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Judy,
THANK YOU!!
This departure date would have been after Anton's (presumable) marriage to my great grandmother Karolina Nilsdotter.  The couple had a child, Enny Asplund, my grandmother, on January 18, 1896.  The story goes that Anton went to America and would send for his wife and daughter, but Karolina apparently decided not to follow him.  Karolina remarried and started a new family.  Her husband's surname was Berg and they had 5 children, (Hjalmar, Carl, Arvid, Alma and Adina,) the oldest of which was Hjalmar.  Hjalmar (several years younger that Enny) reportedly took Enny in a wagon to the train station in 1914 for her departure to America.  
 
Is there any way that you can look up Karolina Nilsdotter on the 1900 census?  I do not know if she would have been remarried at that time to a Mr. Berg (don't have first name, sorry.)  In the 1890 census, she was living w/parents Nils Nilsson (b. 1839) and Katarina Persdotter (b. 1842) in Aleby.
Any help is appreciated.  
 
Karen

2003-09-26, 18:42
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Hello Karen,
 
At the census 1900 Karolina was still living with her parents and sibblings and she's got Enny Elvira. They lived in Norra Råda parish in Åleby.
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Lena

2003-09-27, 01:31
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Hi Karen,
 
Lena answered the question for you, but Karolina was listed as Gift med A.J. Asplund i Amerika = married with (or in this case, married to makes better English) A.J. Asplund in America.
 
All the people below were born in Norra Råda.
 
Homeparish: Norra Råda
Residence: Åleby 1/4 mtl
County: Värmland
SVARvolume: CB1192  Card nr: 1
Page: 174  Row: 40
 
Persons in the household
Fam nr: 1
Nils Persson f. 1839, Hemmanseg.
Karolina Persdotter f. 1842
Nils f. 1876
Olof f. 1877
Katarina f. 1884
Karolina Nilsdotter f. 1873
Enny Elvira f. 1896
Fam nr: 2
Nils Nilsson f. 1876, Dräng
Fam nr: 3
Per Nilsson f. 1873, Dräng
 
Much more detail can be found in the parish records.
 
You can find extractions of parish records for births, marriages, and deaths by searching the Family History Library online catalog for the name of the county (Värmland) and then selecting civil registration. Marriages are vigda.
 
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetailsprint.asp?titleno=51075
 
She couldn't have just remarried, though, unless either Anton Asplund died or she became divorced. Swedes may advise you about how to learn about a possible divorce but divorces were rare back then, I think.
 
Good luck!
 
Judy

2003-09-27, 17:07
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Judy,
Thanks a million for your help!!!  As suspected, Anton and Karolina were married.  I have a sinking feeling that Anton met an untimely demise, and need to follow up on this hunch.  He dropped off the radar in America.  I suppose he could have gone to Canada.  I will keep digging.
 
I am also on the trail of several ancestors in Horn and Hycklinge, in Ostergotland.  My great grandfather, Leander Mansson, b. 16 Feb 1854 in Hycklinge, came to America before 1889.  His wife to be, Emma Augusta Johansson, b. 3 or 5 Jan 1864 in Horn, left Sweden sometime between 1884 and 1889, and may have been traveling with sisters Selma Carolina, b. 29 Jan 1868 (Horn) and Alma Johanna, b. 13 July 1858 (Horn).  There was also a brother, Carl Johan August, b. 22 Dec 1860 (Horn) who may have made the journey.  I don't want to wear out my welcome with you, but is there a way you could look them up as well on the emigration CD?  Emma had a sister who probably came much earlier--Mary (Maria?) Charlotta Johansson b. or 20 Jan 1851 or 1849(?) (Horn.)
Again, thanks for the other info!!  Anything on the Mansson/Johansson line would also be appreciated!!!
Karen P.

2003-09-27, 17:54
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Hello Karen,
 
There are several Johansson leaving Horn. I think I found some of yours but you have to check.
 
Emma Johansson 19 year left Göteborg in 31.7.1885 her destination was New York
 
Selma C Johansson 17 year left Göteborg in 24.7.1885 her destination was New York

2003-09-27, 18:45
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Hi Karen,
 
It is possible that word reached Norra Råda about the death of Anton Asplund, (if your untimely death theory is correct), and just in case, check the death extracts to see if he is listed. I have seen deaths listed in Hova, Skaraborg, which happened in Stockholm stad, so it must be possible.  
 
I have already suggested the microfilms to use for extracts of births, marriages, and deaths until 1920.
 
You had earlier mentioned that your Anny emigrated in 1914. Her patronymic name,age, and county don't match the information you have already provided but here is an Enny emigrating in 1914.(I didn't find any appropriate Ennys leaving from any part of Sweden in any year.)
 
First name: ENNY
Last name: SVENSSON
Age: 23     Gender: K (kvinna = woman)
Parish: TRARYD     County: G (Kronoberg)
Title/Note: FRK (Fröken = Miss)
Port: MALMÖ
Date: 1914 06 12 (date of registering with the police to leave Sweden)
Destination: BOSTON
Fellows: NEJ (Nej = no. She traveled alone on her ticket.)
Source: 1914:1232:540
 
I don't think the above person is correct, though. Since your Enny lived in Värmland, it is very possible that she emigrated using a Norwegian port, and if so, she wouldn't be on this cd. This site could be checked.
 
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/wc/webcens.exe?slag=meny&kategori=5&emne=1&spraak=
 
You can find your Johanssons in the parish records and learn when they registered to leave for Amerika and the parish they were in when they left. It is harder to search the Emigrant CD for common names such as Johansson/Johansdotter, especially without a better emigration year than before 1889, so you are lucky Lena searched and found some of them.She was very generous to do that.
 
You can find a column for a year of immigration in the U.S. Federal Censuses for 1900-1910-1920-1930. A destination, especially a town name or a few town names for those who lived on a farm, is helpful. Realize that although you provided birth parishes, people didn't always stay in those parishes and searching the entire county of Östergötland for such common names will provide hundreds of hits if you don't provide more details. (They might even have gone to another county.)
 
I didn't find Leander using the information you provided, and I didn't find anyone else except those found by Lena. She has done a great job helping you this time and previously in this thread.
 
Good luck!
 
Judy

2003-09-27, 19:33
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THANK YOU Lena and Judy for the great info on my ggrandmother and her sister.  I am learning just how difficult it is to trace a name like Johansson!!  It took me days to pore through the Family search site to find Mary (Maria), and then Emma, Alma and Selma.  I truly appreciate the info that has been kindly provided me by you all!!  Thanks for the further suggestions.  I will follow up in this way!
Gratefully,
Karen Pauley

2003-09-27, 20:21
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Hello Karen.
 
The parish Horn in Östergötland is not complete with all books at Genline www.genline.se  I only found the two Alma and Carl in the birth book
 
Alma Johanna born 23 of July 1858
 

 
Carl Johan August born 22 of december 1860
 

 
Then I found the family in the parish catechetical meeting book
 
1856-1861 Börstamåla
 

 
1862-1866 Börstamåla
 

 
1866-1872 Börstamåla. Johan Erik died 1870. Maria Charlotta moved to North America 10.6.1866
 

 
1872-1877 Börstamåla. Hulda and Alma moved to another places in the parish
 

2003-09-27, 20:32
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Hello again,
 
Now I think I found some of the sibblings in the census 1890
 
Homeparish: Horns Moder
Residence: Högstorp = Bst.
Kontrakt: Kinda
County: Östergötlands
Axel Otto Petersson f. 1847, Skomakare
Kristina Lovisa Johansdotter f. 1853
Magda Augusta f. 1874
Axelina Sofia f. 1879
Jenny Lovisa f. 1883
Axel Peter f. 1884
Johan Alfred Henning f. 1887
Karl August f. 1889
all born in Horn
 
Homeparish: Wårdnäs
Residence: Torpet Snederhult
Kontrakt: Kinda
County: Östergötl.
Anders Peter Alfred Svensson f. 1854 in Horn, Torpare
Hulda Sofia Johansdotter f. 1855
Carl Alfred f. 1888 in Wårdnäs
 
This might bee the youngest sister
Homeparish: Horns Moder
Residence: Drefshult = Torp.
Kontrakt: Kinda
County: Östergötlands
Fam nr: 1
Anders Peter Alfred Svensson f. 1843, Jordtorpare
Matilda Albertina Andersdotter f. 1856
Elin Cecilia f. 1878
Fiken Hildur Alfrida f. 1883
Axel Gerhard Valfrid f. 1886
Fam nr: 2
Anna Charlotta Jonsson f. 1872 in Horn, Piga
 
Here is the mother
 
Homeparish: Horns Moder
Residence: Landeryd = Bst.
Kontrakt: Kinda
County: Östergötlands
Lena Sofia Andersdotter f. 1829 in Horn, Fattighjon

2003-09-27, 20:38
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and here is some at census 1900
 
Homeparish: Horn Östergötlands län
Residence: Högstorp
Kontrakt: Kind
County: Östergötland
Axel Otto Pettersson f. 1847, Skomakare
Kristina Johansdotter f. 1853
Jenny Lovisa f. 1883
Axel Peter f. 1884
Johan Henning f. 1887
Karl August f. 1889
Ernst Hugo f. 1891
Knut Edvard f. 1895
 
Homeparish: Horn Östergötlands län
Residence: Björkhult
Kontrakt: Kind
County: Östergötland
Johan Alfred Olsson f. 1855 in Horn, Arbetare
Anna Jonsdotter f. 1872 in Horn
Johan Edvin f. 1896 in Horn
Helmy Charlotta f. 1899 in Kisa
 
Homeparish: Horn Östergötlands län
Residence: Grinnerum
Kontrakt: Kind
County: Östergötland
Lena Sofia Andersdotter f. 1829, Fattighjon

2003-09-28, 01:37
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!
The images are beautiful and you cannot believe how surprised I was when I looked at them.  It is so exciting to see the names in the old script.  The only info I had to go on were a couple of dates in a small notebook found among my mother's things.  The notebook might have easily been thrown away as it was nondescript.  My mom didn't often speak of her maternal grandmother,(and unfortunately I didn't ask...) but what I do know of Emma Augusta tells me she was quite a lady. She was on what is believed to be the first all woman city council in the U.S. in 1920 in Langley, Washington and I am so happy to find out more about her life before she settled here.  
THANKYOU AGAIN!!  If I can repay you in some way, please feel free to email me any time!!
Karen Pauley

2003-09-28, 09:07
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Hello again Karen.
 
I don't think I gave you the right thing regarding Anna Charlotta. Her last name was Karlsdotter, she was born after Nils died.
 
Here you have some more things
 
Horn 1877-1881. Carl moved to Djursdata 24.10.1879 in Kalmar county, Emma moved to Wäsby/Sandlid in Horn parish as a maid.
 

 
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In Wäsby/Sandlid there is a note that Emma moved to Odensvi, Kalmar parish
 
Here is the moving in note in Odensvi
 
 
 
Here is she in Odensvi/Kulla
 
 
 
It's a note here that she moved to something like Sjöand but I couldn't find her
 
Back to Börstamåla
 
Horn 1882-1886. Mother and sisters are moving to Långsbo
 
 
 
Horn 1882-1886 Långsbo. Selma moves to North Amerika 19.7.1885
 

2003-09-29, 05:02
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This is great !!  It appears that Selma came to America the same time as Emma Augusta.  One of the Census reports gave 1885 as Emma's immigration date.  Wedding and baptism papers put them in Kensington Illinois in 1889 and beyond.
Thank you again for the wonderful images.  Incidentally, could Anna Charlotta Carlsdotter been from a second marriage?  Karen

2003-09-29, 05:15
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Anna Charlotta Karlsdotter is listed as oäkta meaning illegitimate. This usually means her two parents never married, maybe didn't even live together. Her patronymic Karlsdotter suggests that her father's first name was Karl, whether he married Lena Sofia or not.

2003-09-29, 17:27
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Anders,
Thank you for clarifying that for me.
Karen

2003-11-18, 17:58
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Lena,
I see that my great great grandmother was characterized as a fattighjon.  Did this mean that she was truly a pauper?  Wasn't it common for children to take in their parents and care for them, particularly if they were widowed?  
Just curious....

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