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[Judy Walburn]

Is there anyone that can do a lookup on the 1890 census for Hallands region?  I am looking for Inger Kristina Swensdotter, b. 11 Sept. 1818 and died April 1893, but don't know where.  There is one entry in 1890 (listed as Inger Kristina Swensdotter, b. 1817) and would like to find out more about this entry.  Additional family members might rule this person in or out as my family.  
 
Thank you for your interest and assistance.
 
Judy

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Judy,
 
Here you have the Inger Kristina born 1817
 
Homeparish: Rolfstorps annex
Hemstead: N:r 3 Hafstorp
Kontrakt: Warbergs
County: Halland
Fam nr: 1
Inger Kristina Swensdotter b. 1817 in Grimethon, Hemmansåbo, widow
s Sven Johan Engblad b. 1848 in Rolfstorps annex
Fam nr: 2
Inger Kristinas daughter
Josefina Lovisa Dorotea b. 1852 in Rolfstorps annex
Josefinas daughter out of marriage
Jenny Teresia b. 1884 in Rolfstorp
Fam nr: 3
Johan Aron Johansson b. 1860 in Svarterå, Arrendator
farmhand Adolf Leonard Johansson b. 1871 in Svarterå
 
Fam nr 3 is not related to Inger
 
Where have you found out that your Inger Kristina was born 1818 and died 1893.
 
I tried to find any Inger born 1818 but there was no match.
 
Lena

[Judy Walburn]

Lena,
 
First of all, thank you for responding so quickly.  We appreciate the help.  
I have a hand-painted, hand written paper (somewhat like a German fraktur) which states that Inger Kristina Svensdotter was born on 11 September 1818 and died 5 April 1893, 74 years, 7 mos.  It appears to be a death record written in Swedish, with a coffin at the bottom.  It also give reference to bible passages, but does not appear to reference any town or parish.  This was sent to my grandmother, Evalina Kristina Johnson Arvickson here in the US from K. Brandqvist of Karl Gustaf G. 45, Goteborg, Sweden sometime in the early 1900's.  Postmark is not legible.  Also, there is a picture of my grandmother, with her mother (possibly Inger) and a small child.  It was taken at Mathilda Ranch in Varberg, date unknown.  But Evalina looks to be about 30 years old.  There is a possibility that K. Brandqvist from Goteborg may be a sister to Evalina, or at least a close relative, since Evalina immigrated about 1879-1881. She did not marry until after her immigration to the USA.  
 
If you have any suggestions on how to find this family, we would certainly appreciate the advice.  Thank you again.
 
Judy

[Judy Walburn]

Lena,
 
Just a note.  Evelina Kristina Johnson (as she was known by in America) was born 7 May 1860.  It is unknown where in Sweden.  Also, the envelope was addressed by Elizabeth Brandqvist, probably the wife of K. Brandqvist, and possibly a sister to Evelina.
 
Again, any information or advice is appreciated.
 
Judy

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Judy,
 
I just find one Inger Svensdotter born 1818 in the 1890 census. She is notet to be unmarried. She lives in the county of Göteborgs and Bohus and thats the same where Brandqvist was living in.
 
Homeparish: Forshälla
Hemstead: Jettesås
Kontrakt: Elfsyssels
County: Göteborgs o Bohus
Fam nr: 1
Sven Andreasson f. 1821, Torpare
Fam nr: 2
Inger Svensd b. 1818  in Forshälla parish
Fam nr: 3
Anna Britta Johansd f. 1821
 
That's all I can find. Nothing about Brandqvist. 1900 census is not finnished yet for Göteborg county

[Deborah Moseng]

I am new to this site and not sure if I am doing this right--as far as where to ask for help. I am looking for more information about my grandfather who came from Sweden and his family. We found a letter edged in black in my mother's belongings after she died. I put it on another site to see if someone could translate it and what I found was that my great grandfather was Anders Johan Nilsson, born September 30, 1841 and died  December 25, 1912 in Sodra Runsten, Kalmar County in Sweden. His wife's name was Johanna. I have heard (from my mother) that they had three children-a son, my grandfather, John A. Anderson, who was born June 17, 1868 and died here in America (Buffalo, North Dakota) on November 30, 1935 (I believe he came to America in 1886?). Anders and Johanna Nilsson had a daughter, Josephine who also came to America and lived in Minnesota. Mom said that Grandfather had another brother who died while still a young man. I do not know much about him at all, whether he died in Sweden or in America.
 
How can I go about finding out more information about this family, more generations back, all their birthdates and where they were born, Johanna's maiden name. I may not be putting this in the correct place to get the most people to look at it but I don't quite understand this site completely yet (and I don't read Swedish). Thanks for any information anyone can help me with. I thought the census might be a good place to start?
Deborah, Wisconsin USA
dmoseng@charter.net

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Deborah,
 
Regarding the census 1890
 
Homeparish: Runsten:s
Place of residence: Runsten South
Kontrakt: Ölands medel
County: Kalmar
Anders Johan Nilsson b. 1841 in Runsten, Undantagare
wife Brita Johanna Andersdtr b. 1836 in N Möckleby
children
Oskar Alfrid Leonard b. 1874 in Runsten
Carl Rudolf b. 1878 in Runsten
 
Oskar Alfrid Leonard exact birth date are 26.11.1873
Carl Rudolfs was 29.10.1878
 
They also had a son Per Julius born 11.10.1871, I dont know what happened to him
 
Brita Johanna died 25.02.1919 in Runsten of age
 
Anders Johan had a twin sister Cajsa Lena. Their parents was Nils Persson and Cajsa Knutsdotter. place of recidense was Spjuterum 8 in Runsten.
 

 
Nils and Cajsa had also this children
Stina Maria born 07.04.1834
Petter 07.11.1836
 
Nils Persson died by drowning 07.05.1855
 
Kajsa Knutsdotter died 17.12.1871 she was 64 year 9 month and 5 days old when she died
 
Anders Johans sister Stina Maria moved to Högserum parish and regarding the census 1890  she was widow and had a son Olof Teodor Olsson born 1867 in Högsrum and he was a sailer.
 
 
Here you have the family whit your great grand-fahter, he was born 1866 and his name was Johan Alfred
 

 
they moved to page 150. There is a note that Per Julius died 03.04.1889.
 

[Deborah Moseng]

The information you found is great. I am just concerned as it doesn't sound like the family I was told about. The birth year of Great Grandfather is correct 1841 and he married a Johanna (I wasn't aware of the name Brita) but the children's names aren't anywhere what I know of. I know of Grandfather who in America was John A. Anderson, born June 17, 1868 and a sister Josephine (not sure when born) and Mom talked about a brother Grandfather had who died young (not sure if in Sweden or America). Do you think this is the family and, if so, what happened to Josephine? Where can I find out more about the family as far as what they did for a living, when they came to America (the ones that did? I am fascinated with finding out more about my family's ancesters. I have been reading all about the Norwegians and Swedes coming to America and what they went through etc. History is all of a sudden very exciting when it is about my family. Reading about Norway and Sweden is very exciting now too. Sounds beautiful there.
Deborah
dmoseng@charter.net

[Lena Thelin]

Hello again Deborah.
 
I think it's the right family. It's often happening that the birth year has been changed through the years. Johan Alfred becam likely John A. Johan Alfred had a sister Mathilda Josefina and he had a brother Per Ablin that died quit young 18 years old.
 
Regarding the CD of Emigrant leaving from Sweden there is on John Alf Andersson 18 years old left form Runsten throug Kalmar 16.04.1884. His destination was St Paul Mn, source code 3805a:7:7903

[Deborah Moseng]

Lena, My sister and I were just talking about the information you provided and the more we talked about it the more we do think this could be the family. If Josephine and John came to America about 1886 they wouldn't be on the 1890 census. Is there any other information source that could give me any information about them as far as when they came over for sure? Also,there may have been brothers that I wasn't aware of that stayed in Sweden (the two on the census that I didn't recognize the names of).
 
Is there any way I can find out more about this family, like from parish records or something? Is there any ways to get any pictures at all that would be available from there (like church pictures, confirmations, weddings etc?). I know this is a lot to ask but I am just learning all of this and not sure what is available. If you know of any other sources that may benefit me, would you please let me know, thanks so much.
Deborah Moseng
dmoseng@charter.net

[Deborah Moseng]

Wow, you are fast! I was printing out the information you had sent and when I was looking at it I realized I had another answer from you about it being the correct family and I hadn't even read it on the computer yet! Thanks for being so fast. I am hoping this is the right family as you have supplied me with quite a bit of information which is quite exciting. I am maybe a bit slow at catching it all as it is confusing when they changed names and some of the dates are not the same as I knew them. Where did you find the information about the sister Mathilda Josephina? did you see any dates as far as birth and where for her? How can I find out if that was my grandfather for sure that came over in 1884 as it says on the census here that he came in 1886 but that is sure close! It would make sense that he came to Minnesota as he lived his whole life here between Minnesota and North Dakota, mostly in Buffalo, ND. Can I find out more information about the boat and how he came? If his sister came with him? I think it is so sad when people came over that they never saw their families again. I doubt either my grandmother (from Norway) or my grandfather ever saw their families (other than who lived here in America) again.  
 
You have been such a great help. This is the most information I have found so far. I can't read the census copies you sent very well but I printed them out anyway. Where are you finding all the extra information, like about the twin sister,when people moved etc?
Deborah Moseng

[Anders Andersson]

Runsten parish, which is located on the island of Öland in the Baltic Sea just off the coast of mainland Sweden, belongs to Gärdslösa pastorat (parish union); you can find a picture of the church at that website.
 
The name Mathilda Josefina appears right below the name of Johan Alfred on the two clerical survey records that Lena scanned and posted as inline images above. The latter image of those tells us that Mathilda Josefina moved to Långlöt parish (which is found nearby, also in Gärdslösa parish union today) on 31 October 1884.
 
The twin sister is revealed by Anders Johan's birth record shown in the first image of three.

[Anders Andersson]

I found another website with more detailed photos and descriptions (in Swedish only) of the churches on Öland.

[Deborah Moseng]

Wow, thanks Anders (that name Anders and Andersson is sure popular in Sweden, doesn't that get confusing as to who is who?). I am going to go to those websites now, it is frustrating when I can't understand the print but it will be grat to see the church, makes it more 'personal'. Also thanks for helping me understand more where Lena got the names etc. I can sort of read them but not very well and the writing is very pretty, but quite fancy and hard to read. I am thrilled to have them though and printed them out. ANY other information about this family would be GREATLY appreciated. This is just really exciting, brings a whole new meaning to history for me. Now I want to know who for sure came over to America when grandfather did and when exactly and on what boat and the conditions. I just have so many quesitons. I am so thankful for sites like this to help.
Deborah Moseng

[Deborah Moseng]

I hate to be such a pest but this is just so exciting. I printed out the picture of the church in Runsten, hope that is the correct one (wish I could read the print around the picture, oh well). Does anyone know how I could find out if there is anyone there yet from this family who could tell me more personal things about great grandfather and the rest of the family, like what they did, how they lived, maybe someone I could email back and forth with a little and maybe even get a picture or something? I don't know if this is possible and don't know if it would be possible because of the language difference either. I can't read or write Swedish so that could be a major problem. This would be a few generations removed now but there should be some information or stories I would be fascinated to hear.
Deborah Moseng

[Anders Andersson]

Deborah, since this discussion is labelled 1890 Census I suggest turning to Landskap: Öland: Socknar: Runsten for further help with your particular family. Anbytarforum provides a separate discussion for each of the 2,500 parishes in Sweden (or at least will provide for any parish that anybody is interested in), as well as discussions for each province in general. In the parish discussions, you are more likely to make contact with researchers familiar with your particular parish, and they may have access to other sources beyond the 1890 census database. Inquiries in English are welcome also in Swedish-language discussions. I'm not too familiar with Öland myself, and I'm unable to assist you with lookups pertaining to that part of Sweden.

[Deborah Moseng]

Thank you. I realized after I put my query on this area that I was limiting myself as far as who would read it but I didn't quite understand the site because of not reading Swedish. Then I read in the English directions NOT to put something in more than one post so I didn't want to go against the rules either. I will do what you said and put my request now on that one (providing I can understand it-I haven't been there yet). I sure wish I understood Swedish and Norwegian, sure would help my geneology stuff.You and Lena have been most helpful on here, thank you very much, I have learned SO much about my family.
Deborah

[Judy Walburn]

Could someone please check the 1890 census for Christina Svensdotter, born 1818?  I would like to know what parish she can be found in.  Last known to be in Värö, Hallands län in 1869.  According to the 1890 index, she is still in Hallands, but don't know which parish or farm.  All information is appreciated.  Thank you.

[Judy Olson Baouab]

Judy,
 
From Arkion 1890:
 
Homeparish: Wärö
Residence: Färjestaden N:o 1 och Nyebro N:o 2
County: Halland
SVARvolume: 000232  Card nr: 8
Page: 30  Row: 20
 
Persons in the household
Fam nr: 1
widow Christina Svensdotter f. 1818 in Wärö (Värö), Fattighjon (pauper)
Fam nr: 2
unmarried d. Inger Brita Olofsdotter f. 1853 in Wärö  
hennes oä. d. (her illegitimate daughter, meaning Inger's daughter, I supppose)Evelina Ottilia f. 1882 in Wärö  
hennes oä. s. (her illegitimate son)Gustaf Fredrik f. 1887 in Wärö  
 
Judy

[Diana Mundle]

Can someone please help me with the 1890 census?
My Great Great Grandmother's parish of birth is listed as Grafva. I did a parish search in Landskap and the parish wasn't listed. This is how she was listed in the Census.
Lovisa Persson, year of birth: 1857, Parish of birth: Grafva, Werml.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Diana

[Arnold Mellgren]

Hi Diana. I think it is Grava in Värmland. Grafva is an old spelling. Try again and good luck. My grandmothers parents came from this part of Sweden.

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Diana,
 
I checked the birth book for Grava 1857 via Genline and found this
 

[Arnold Mellgren]

Hej Lena! Nu fick hon ett utmärkt utgångsläge för vidare forskning!  
Jag kommer för övrigt att börja forska efter min farmors mors anor i Grava inom kort. Nyfiken på om böckerna har bra läsbarhetoch hur långt tillbaka man kan söka.

[Diana Mundle]

Arnold and Lena,
Thank you so much!!
Lena, I can't read Swedish, so if I may ask you to translate?
Was Lovisa born on the 7th and christened on the 23rd? Is Gerstad the farm or town in Grava? I have question marks for what I don't understand.
 
Gerstad ? Per Adolph ?  
Stina Elofsdr ? Carl Andersson
? Stina Svensdr Sk(ä-å)ne
and I don't understand what's in the last column.
 
I really appreciate your help.
Diana

[Lena Thelin]

Hello Diana,
 
I'll try
 
Lovisa born 17th or August and christened 23th of August
Born in Gerstad in Grava parish.
Father (Lösdr) vagrant Per Adolf Olsson
Mother Stina Elofsdotter, 31 year old
sponsor Carl Andersson and his wife Stina Svensdotter in Skåne
 
I don't know if Gerstad is a farm or town in Grava and it's the same regarding Skåne
 
The name of the priest is in the last column.

[Diana Mundle]

Thank you again Lena. I was so lost in my Swedish genealogy before I happened into this web site. Everyone here has been so helpful.
Diana

[Bo Johansson]

Gerstad seems to be a farm, and Skåne a small village, south of Kil in Värmland.
 

 
Taken from the Lantmäteriet mapsearch page  http://www2.lantmateriet.se/ksos_eng/index.html
 
// Bo Johansson

[Elisabeth Thorsell]

Skåne is probably the place Skåre, which is a village in Grava parish.

[Bo Johansson]

But there is also a settlement called Skåne there, so it could be either one.
 
Here is a map that shows both Skåre and Skåne:
 

 
// Bo Johansson

[Lena Thelin]

I found some more
 
Grava, Gerstad page 505
Father Per Adolf Olsson born 3th of April 1819 in Carlstad
Mother wife Stina Elofsdotter born 25th of October 1826 in Grava
children
Olof Gustaf born 23th of February 1848 in Grava
Christina born 17th of February 1850 in Grava
Jan Petter born 17th of March 1854 in Wäse (Väse) ded 24th of January 1858
Lovisa born 17th of August 1857 in Grava
Anna Catharina born 9th of March 1860 in Grava