I'm glad there is consensus on Marit as the bride!  Do think the boy Olof born on 6 (8?) July 1729 on the attached record also has the parents Pehr and Marit? If so, they obviously must be a different couple than the parents for Kierstin born on 21 September 1729. The location is different for Olof's birth.
Thank you.

Thank you very much!  I sure could not have understood that.

Thank you Klas!  I see that Rusenberg is a town in Brålanda; I will look for her there.

(I erred in my last post: Petter's military name was Petter Johansson Lind, not Andersson Lind.)

Could someone please interpret the note associated with the son Petter, in the family of Johannes Andersson at Fogelmyran?  Did he leave the farm along with a sibling in September 1805?  Does it say where he went?

Thank you,
Doug Nelson

Thank you very much for that translation!  I am correct in thinking that I should be able to find her on p. 1762 of the 1947--  volumes? Or does that notation refer to something else?

Thank you very much for the help!

Doug Nelson

Kalle,

Thank you very much for the detailed translation. It allowed me to realize that I had the wrong birth
date and father for Ingeborg's daughter, who was my ancestor.  I found the correct information now. It is interesting that the death records in Stenbrohult back then are so lengthy (and forthright!).

Doug

Thank you very much for your help!  I could trace him back to 1761, but the records in Erikstad, and some parishes near there don't go back any further.  The Muster Roll gives his birthplace as "Dal", which doesn't help me much!  Oh well, it was worth the try.

Doug

Thank you so much for pointing me to the correct parish!  I sure could not make out the "S" at the beginning of Steneby.  I found Anders and his family at the farm Säbyn in Steneby before they moved to Dals-Ed.

Doug

Thank you very much for the translation of "hinderlös."  I have since found that they lived in Järbo 1785-1794 and married there in 1786.  Perhaps they lived in Högsäter only in 1795 before moving to Ödskölt in 1796.  Thank you again!

Thank you Ulla for looking into this further!  Yes, I see her on p. 105 with the July birthdate.  So, I can assume that is the date, and she just was left out of the birth records.  I have a number of other ancestors for whom I cannot find a birth record to match the household exams. Thanks again to all of you!

Would someone please be able to help me interpret this household exam (Dals-Ed-P-AI-11-1851-1855-Image-248-Page-235;  http://www.arkivdigital.se/aid/info/v3857.b248.s235)?  I am interested in Anna Kristina Jonasdotter, born in Ed, 1826.  In the “Inflyttad” column are some numbers I don’t understand.  I thought the “51” might refer to the year she moved in, but I can't find her there in the 1951 moving in records:
Dals-Ed (P) B:1 (1830-1860) Image 50 / Page 93
http://www.arkivdigital.se/aid/info/v11412.b50.s93

She is not at this farm in the 1846-1850 household exams.  She is still here in the 1856-1860 books, until she moved out upon her marriage.

Perhaps someone with sharper eyes can see her in the moving in records, or perhaps I am reading this wrong?  I realize moving records are far from complete. I can’t find a birth record for her in Slaktdata, nor in the Dals-Ed birth records, which is why I am trying to go back in time through the household exams.

Thank you in advance for your help,
Doug Nelson

I think I have found this Ingier Germundsdotter's death on 10 April 1751 in Stenbrohult.  I wonder if someone could please help translate this for me?  I can understand that she was married for 19 years in Dihult, had 9 children (I have been able to find 7 born at Dihult), and died at Tångarna at 93 years of age of ålderdom.  I can't understand the rest of it.  I found her at Tångarna in the Stenbrohult AI:3 household exam.  There it said she was born in 1668; if true, she would have been 83, not 93, at her death.  Still, a long life!

Thank you for any help you can provide!

Could someone please help me read the last name of the widow Ingier Gunnarsdotter? Germondsdotter?, the second to the last person listed on this household exam?  I see that her daughter Kirstin died, and Ingier moved to Agunnaryd parish (hope I got that right).

Thank you all for the help.
Doug Nelson

Sorry, I can't upload the file I want to...

Thank you both for your help!  The spelling of the places is unusual. 

Thanks so much!  Knowing his soldier's name, I was able to find his second marriage and then death in Väne-Ryr.

Thank you very much for looking at this.  Oh well, I thought I might get lucky, but not this time!

Okay, thanks for that correction.  I guess this will remain a mystery -- it's not critical that I know where she was born!

Thank you again
Doug N.

Thank you very much for that explanation!

Doug N.

Thank you!  I see him now at Flicksäter Norra in 1750.

Doug N

Hello,

I am having trouble reading two records from  Frändefors parish.  First is the estate inventory from 1774 for Anna Maria DeHog.  The third underlined name is her mother, Madame Britta Caisa.  What is her last name?  Sundstedt?

Anbytforum link: Sundals häradsrätt (P) FIIa:17 (1774) Image 130 / Page 255 (AID: v143089.b130.s255, NAD: SE/GLA/11112)

Next is a tax record from 1775 showing Anna Maria's widowed husband, Olof Olofsson, at Lövnäs (in the middle of the left page).  Can someone please translate the note in the margin?  Olof is not here in 1776; I am hoping the note will tell me where he moved to.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0003453_00248

Thank you very much for your help!
Doug N

Hello again,

I believe I have found an Olof Nilsson who may be the ancestor I have been looking for in Frändefors.  He is listed here in the middle of the page, below his mother, Anna Olofsdotter, b. 1757.  It appears that Anna died during the period covered, perhaps 1804.  Daughter Elin moved somewhere, but then sons Jonas and Olof (b. 1794) are crossed out.  Could someone please translate the comments to the right of Jonas and Olof?  There also appears to be a remark in the "1804" column opposite Olof.  It does not look like the comments refer to movements, but I would like to be sure.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0043675_00119

The entire family, with father Nils Hemmingson, is listed at Gråtetorp from 1798-1801 in AI:2/33;  Nils died in 1800.  I would like to see if I can connect this Olof to a single Olof Nilsson (b. 1795) who wandered around western Frändefors in the AI:5 and AI:7 volumes before emigrating to Västra Tunhem in 1815.  I suspect he must have been an orphan, for he was alone at the age of ~14 years in 1809.

Thank you for your help!
Doug N.

Well, I could not put this search aside.  I believe I have found Ellika Olofsdotter's estate inventory at Ris Stommen,  Frändefors in 1797 (Sundals häradsrätt (P) FIIa:32 (1797) Image 249 / Page 493).

The childrens' names Nils Månsson and Kierstin are consistent with what I have learned about Ellika and her late husband Måns Starling.  Could someone please read for me the last name of Kierstin's solider husband, Olof?  The fact that he is named Olof makes me worry I have been on the wrong track here.  Before I discard my work, I would like to learn what I can about this soldier to check the possibility, however remote, that they wrote "Olof" by mistake instead of "Nils."  I have been trying to find the parents of Nils Olofsson, born ~1795 in Frändefors, and thought until now that Kierstin might be his mother.  This could of course be the wrong Ellika.

Thank you for your help,
Doug N.

Hello,

Could someone please translate the comment in the margin next to Pehr Jonsson's name in this 1785 tax record ("64...")?  He is the fifth person from the top on the right hand side at Hohl Garteg.  I have been unable to find a death record for him in Slaktdata, and I wonder if he perhaps moved to a parish that is not in that database?  The "64" could easily be his age.  I believe it is his son Jon Pehrsson listed just below him.  Jon appears to have taken over the farm as he alone is listed there in subsequent years.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0003465_00008

Thank you very much for your help!
Doug N.

Hello,

I am having trouble interpreting the record attached here for Anna Maia Persdotter, born 1790 in Åsbo. 

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0014709_00008

The moving in column contains a remark I am not familiar with.  I thought the "Ibm" might mean that she came from S. Bosmark also, but I do not see her there prior to 1813.  So I do not understand what this means, and I would like to try to find her movements prior to this date.  Her sister Greta is listed below her, and her future husband, Anders Persson, is listed in the group of young men above her.

Thank you for your help,
Doug Nelson

Thank you so much for your help!  Your guess that Ellika moved to Torp was correct: I think I see her there from 1771-1774, after which she disappeared.

I did find her with her daughter Kierstin in 1778 in Frändefors AI:1, p. 3 (attached).  Again, I can't read where they moved to.  Or maybe they did not move since they aren't crossed out.  If someone can please read this, I would be grateful.  If they moved to the eastern part of the parish, I'm out of luck, as there are no household exams there prior to 1802.

I took Swedish in high school, but that was 50 years ago, and doesn't help much with reading some of the hand-writing in the old books.

Thank you again; this has been a great help!

Thank you both for your generous help!  I will look at the tax records you referenced next time I have access to ArkivDigital.  Those years don't seem to be available at the Riksarkivet.

The marginal reference to Alltorp in the tax record I posted is indeed puzzling.  I will need to look into this some more. 

Thank you again.

Doug N

Hello,  I am trying to find the birth record for Samuel Mattesson near Järbo parish. The attached tax record is from 1744 in Järbo (Mantalslängder 1642-1820, Jarbo (1744), sida 352).  The third person listed at Skällsäter is (I believe) Mattes Swansson, the husband of Stina Svensdotter Dallöf. They were married in Järbo on 29 June 1742 and their first child, Samuel (my ancestor), may have been born somewhere other than Järbo (their next 5 children were born there).  Do the marginal comments next to Mattes’ name give some indication of where he moved from and where Samuel might have been born?

Thank you in advance for your help,
Doug Nelson

(I posted a version of this request yesterday with 2 tax records, but I think I solved the problem I had with one of them.)

Happy New Year (almost)!

I would appreciate it if someone could please provide help reading the attached tax record from Frändefors parish in 1784.  Samuel Dahlof is listed at Liljetorpet on the lower left side of the page.  In the margin it says he came from somewhere.  Did he come from Örsberg? 

Thank you for your help.

Doug Nelson

Thank you for the caution about Ellika Olofsdotter's age.

You mentioned Släktregister Dalsland; I am not familiar with this, and could not find it in a quick Google Search.  Could you please tell me more about this source so that perhaps I can find the information on Måns Starling that you cited?

Thank you very much,
Doug N.

Thank you so much for the prompt help!  I was looking in the wrong century in the marriage books (1698 instead of 1798). 

I'm glad I asked anyway, because your translation is very helpful, and the mention of her father Samuel Dahlöf, confirms that this Maria is my ancestor.  Maria, Hans, and Samuel are present in Frandeförs some years after this marriage.  I will try to find them in Uddevalla now. 

Thank you again,
Doug N.

Thank you very much for this additional information!  So far I have not been able to find a Måns Starling/Harling or anything similar in the Central Soldiers' Register, but I will keep looking. 

Thank you again.

Doug N.

Hello,

I would like to please ask for help translating two records concerning Kierstin Månsdotter in Frändefors.  The first is her birth record on 5 Oct 1761: Frändefors C:1 (1751-1781) / 104.  Father: Måns Burling and mother: Olofsdotter;  I cannot read the location.  Second is a household exam (Frändefors AI:2 (1802-1807) / 161).  At the very bottom of the page are Kierstin Månsdotter and her three children.  To the right of the names are two lines that I do not understand.  Could someone please translate them for me?  I’m assuming Kierstin died sometime in this interval, 1802-1807; does the first line concern her death?

Thank you for your help,
Doug Nelson

Hello,  I would like to ask if someone could please help me translate the attached death record from Stenbrohult-G-C-2b-1751-1827/617 (at the bottom of the page).  I am having trouble with the end of the second, and beginning of the third lines in between her marriage and children.

Died on 28 June 1773 Husfru Britta Bengtsdotter in Bohult married with Sune Pehrsson in Bohult for 34 years……..had 2 sons and four daughters.  Had fever for 14 days before dying at 49 years of age.

Thank you very much,
Doug Nelson

Hello,

I have been trying to trace the movements of Jon Persson in Brålanda and Sundals_Ryr parishes  in the late 1700's.  I would like to ask someone's help in interpreting some comments made in the margin for two tax records.

The first is from Brålanda in 1786.  Jon is the second person listed at Aspebohl, in the lower right-hand corner.  Can someone please translate the comments in the right margin opposite Jon's name?  I am trying to learn where Jon was before moving here (the first household exam in this parish begins in 1789).

Mantalslängder 1642-1820, Mantalslängder 1642-1820Älvsborgs län, SE/RA/55203/55203.15/114 (1786), bildid: A0003466_00247, sida 466

Jon and family moved to Holmerud in Sundals-Ryr, where the second record in 1805 is from.  Jon is the fifth name from the top.  There is a comment just below Jon's name (in brackets), and also in the right margin, that I do not understand.  I know that Jon died here in 1809, but I am curious about these comments.

Mantalslängder 1642-1820, Mantalslängder 1642-1820Älvsborgs län, SE/RA/55203/55203.15/127 (1805), bildid: A0003479_00545, sida 1034

Thank you very much for your help.

Doug Nelson

I have attached a birth record for Måns Jönsson on 27 June 1743; also the link is here:

Västra Torsås kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/VALA/00453/C/2 (1720-1746), bildid: C0026307_00112, sida 200

Can someone please read the name of the farm where the family lived?  I believe the parents are named Jöns Person and Kierstin Persdotter, but please correct me if I am wrong.

Thank you for your help,
Doug Nelson

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could please help me interpret the two attached records from Åsbo parish.  The first is the marriage between Anders Persson and Anna Olofsdotter on 2 October 1743 (Åsbo C2/384).  I can see that Anders was from Ekebytorp in Mjölby; but I don’t understand the part pertaining to Anna.  I am also curious to know what Anders’ “title” is.  I don’t understand the first word before his name.

The second record is the death of Anna Stina Olofsdotter on 24 January 1803 (Åsbo C2/529).  I don’t understand the words before the location “Basteberg.”  I can see that she was a widow who died of old age at 84 1/3 years old.

Thank you in advance for your time.

Would someone please be able to help read the attached moving out record?  On 4 March 1765 Olof Persson and Ingrid Johanesdotter moved from Södra Qvisselhult to somewhere??  I can't read the last two words.

Thank you very much.
Doug N

Could someone please help me read the attached birth record from Frändefors C1/p.197?  I am interested in the child born on 7 April 1774.  Is the name Anders?  I believe the father is Anders , and mother Maria Svensdotter i Holmen.  Witnesses: Bryngel Bryngelsson ibm and Anna Anderdotter i Holmen.  Is this close to being correct?

Thank you!

Would someone please help me read the parents' names on the attached birth record from Skatelöv C2/14?  Britta Svensdotter was born in 16 March 1723.  I can't make out the father's last name nor the mother's first name.  Was the father Sven a soldier?

Thank you for your time and expertise,
Doug Nelson

Can someone please help me interpret the attached birth record of Brita Margreta, born 11 Sept 1766, in Tolgs parish?  I am unfamiliar with the term "Bakfots" (sp??).  In various clerical exams she is named Britta Greta Carlsdotter or Britta Greta Bakfots.  I assume it refers to a birth out of wedlock; though I have usually seen "oakta" in that circumstance.  I can't see a father's name.

Also, can you please read the mother's name and where she is from?  I can read Lisa Regina, but am unsure of her surname.  I would like to try to find the family in the Tolgs clerical exams, and knowing the location would help (although the books then have no registers).

I am also intrigued that one of the witnesses is "Mademoiselle" Cath...  That, and the mother's name Lisa Regina..., make me wonder if the family were not farmers, typical of all my ancestors (not that there is anything wrong with being a Bonde or Torpare!).

Thank you,
Doug Nelson

Here I summarize my work looking for Pehr Andersson's birth, and his movements into Åsbo parish.

Possible births for Pehr Andersson.  Åsbo household exams list either 2 Jan 1753 or 2 Jan 1743 as his birthdate.

I searched Säby births 1751-1760: 3 possible/certain Pehr Anderssons born, one in January. 
Säby C3/192 Oct 1753  f: Anders
Säby C3/193  2 Jan 1754  father: probably Jan/Jon
Säby C3/200 30 Apr 1757  f: Anders

I searched also Säby births in January only, 1743-1753.  Found one Pehr Andersson:
Säby C3/169 6 Jan 1744

I did a page search of Säby A2 (1769-1782).  I found two Pehr Anderssons in their families, but with the “wrong” birth years (1757, 1765).  The first (p. 27, born 1757, father: Anders Jonsson) is crossed out with an unclear destination written.  The entire family of the other Pehr (p. 143, b. 1765, father: Anders Persson) is also crossed out, perhaps because the mother died.  No destination is listed.

I searched Åsbo births 1742-1760: No Pehr Andersson born.
There are no birth records for Ekeby then. I have not checked other nearby parishes.

Moving Records

I searched Åsbo C2 & 3 moving in from 1744-1785.  1785 is when we first encounter Pehr in an Åsbo household exam.  I began in 1744 to check the possibility he moved with his family.  He would be too young to travel alone in the first two records below.  If he was born in 1743/1744, he would have been old enough to be married (to Elizabeth Månsdotter in the records below).  Had he been born in 1744, he would have been 100 years old at his death!  A more likely 1753-1757 birth date would rule out all but the last two moving records.

Åsbo C:2/99  4 May 1758 Per Andersson from Mjolby 
Åsbo C:2/103  15 Nov 1761 Per Andersson from Ekeby
Åsbo C:2/103  31 Oct 1762 Per Andersson with husfru Elizabeth Månsdotter
Åsbo C:2/103  14 Nov 1762 Per Andersson from W. Stens (?)
Åsbo C:2/116    3 June 1771 Per Andersson with husfru Elizabeth Månsdotter from Harg
Åsbo C:2/118  8 Nov 1772 Per Andersson (I can’t read)
Åsbo C:3/493 8 June 1783 Pehr Andersson from Ekeby to Timmero (?)  It appears he is with an Anna.

The last moving in record seems most promising.  If I read the destination correctly, he moved to where we first found him in Åsbo in 1785 (Timmero).  But Anna would have to have died so that Pehr could marry Helena Mansdotter (his first wife in Åsbo) in 1785.  It appears that someone named Anna did die on 4 May 1784 (Åsbo C:3/517).  32 years old?  I can’t read this record.

There are no moving records for Ekeby prior to 1807, so I cannot check if he moved from Säby to Ekeby, and there are no household exams in Ekeby before 1808. I cannot read the writing in the Säby moving records to see if he moved from there to Ekeby.

None of this is very convincing.  It could just as easily be that Pehr was born somewhere other than Säby parish.  Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Thank you both for the translation help and finding the location!  I thought there were localities given for both the mother and father, but you pointed out there was only one (Baggården).  Thanks also for pointing me to the Släktdata website: I did not know of this site, and have already found it very useful!  Your help has helped me follow the family of Nils Bengtsson Lindgren (the husband in the attached record).  I have found 5 children so far, sometimes the father is Nils Bengtsson and sometimes Nils Lindgren.  A bit confusing, but I am pretty sure the father is the same individual.

Doug Nelson

Hello,  I am looking for the birth of an ancestor named Anders Andersson born in 1774 or 1775 in Brålanda.  I have found one candidate born on 7 July 1774 (shown on the attached a page of birth records, upper left hand corner).  Could someone please confirm whether this child was named Anders?  I believe the father was a soldier, Anders Wennersdal (?) and the mother, Ingeborg or Ingrid Svensdotter.  If you agree that he is Anders, can you please read where the family lived?  I have tried to match this word against a list of farms in Brålanda, but without success.  I am also concerned that the word "dod" appears to be written above the child's name.  I did not find a death record for an infant named Anders Andersson in 1774 or 1775.

Thank you for your help.

Doug Nelson

Would someone please have the time to look at the attached moving record from Stenbrohult parish (Kronobergs län), AI:8, p. 440?  I am interested in line 5, which lists Bengt Jonsson and his wife Gunill Månsdotter.  I traced them here from a household exam in Västra Torsås which listed them as moving to Stenbrohult in 1820 (a fact repeated on the attached record).  This record then lists them as leaving Stenbrohult in 1821.  Can you please interpret where they moved to?  Back to Västra Torsås?  Is a farm named?  It could be useful too if you can please read the writing just to the right of their names in the box.  As background, Bengt was born in Stenbrohult, but moved in 1799 to Västra Torsås when he married Gunill.  They moved back to Stenbrohult apparently for just one year.

Thank you for your time and help,
Doug Nelson

Hello,

I wonder if someone could please help me interpret the attached household exam from Västra Torsås AI:1 (1773-1789), p. 160?  I am interested in Elin Månsdotter, listed with her parents Måns and Anna.  Elin is crossed out, with what appears to be an abbreviation “abs. 1782” after her name.  To the right are two lines crossed out that I cannot read; there appears to be the names Anders and Lars and a location ending in “hult.”  Can someone please read these lines for me?  Can you also please read the name of the child listed below Elin?

I am curious about the abbrevation “abs.” which I took to mean “absent.”  This makes sense in Elin’s case because she is crossed out, and is not present at this location in Västra Torsås AI:2.  However, “abs. 84” follows the parent’s names, they are not crossed out; indeed they are present at this location (Olofshylte) in Västra Torsås AI:2, p. 160.  If I understand this wrong, please correct me. 

Thank you for your time and help,
Doug Nelson

Thank you very much for your kind help!  Pehr Andersson's son, Anders Pehrsson (b. 20 Apr 1792; Caisa Carlsdotter, mother) is my great-great-great grandfather.  I know Caisa's parents, her birth, marriage and death.  I know a great deal about Pehr's life in Ǻsbo (thanks in no small part to you all), but I hope to find his parents to add one last generation to that lineage.  I guess I will try searching Säby AI:2 (1769-1782) page by page, he may still be with his parents then.  This has rarely worked in other situations but those Säby records are easy to read.  I don't know how to link a marriage record alone to a birth.  Either the birth year or parish (or both) is wrong in the Ǻsbo household exams.  Perhaps I will look in Ǻsbo and Ekeby around 1753 for Pehr's birth.

Thank you, and I'll post if I find anything!
Doug

Dear Ulla and Klas,

Many thanks to you both for the prompt help!  I looked in the Säby birth records for Pehr Andersson's birth on 2 Jan 1753; but I could not find a Pehr born in 1753.  However, there appears to be a boy named Pehr born on 2 Jan 1754 (in the middle of the left-hand page), but the record is very difficult for me to read (see attached).  I believe the mother's name is Maria Månsdotter, but I cannot read the father's name, or what farm they may have lived on.  I wonder if someone might be able to read this birth record for me and confirm if the father's name is Anders?

Thank you again,
Doug